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TomDrewett
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 05/04/2013 : 13:48:29
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Another uncertain one. thank you!
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Eric Taylor
France
157 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2013 : 14:02:55
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Pehaps the same as this?
Silverstone 196?.
Eric.
PS. AML 103 was K3013 according to the 1982 Register. |
Edited by - Eric Taylor on 05/04/2013 14:14:35 |
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JMH
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/04/2013 : 14:45:03
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& in the background you have; Coles-J Type, Beer-K3023, Beer-QA0258 & perhaps even Beer-J3751?
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Eric Taylor
France
157 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2013 : 15:14:28
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Jeremy, here's a few more from the same meeting.
Reagards Eric.
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Allan Bentley
United Kingdom
257 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2013 : 16:42:36
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The K3 number 79 - The name I remember as the owner and driver was Kramer.
I think this meeting was Silverstone 1964 as I remember well seeing all these cars together, especially the blue Beer J3.
A 'very young' version of myself is to be seen in the background on one of the photos.
Excellent photos and a good memory test. |
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George Eagle
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/04/2013 : 17:18:22
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Hi Eric
What a wonderful selection of cars from the Beer collection, would'nt it be lovely to see some of them out again.
K3013 is now MG-K3 and belongs to Gergard Maier.
Is'nt that the Hawke J2 with the starter handle hanging out of the apron?
George
L2023 and NA0960 |
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JMH
United Kingdom
911 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2013 : 17:40:57
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Yes it is - looking slightly knock-kneed, must be those chunky wheels (which ended up on Mike As' NO). This photo is captioned from MGCC Silverstone 1967, so that's my guess for the event & date:
I would have been a toddler with an old box-brownie getting in everybody's way taking fuzzy photos! Paddocks were way better back then - total freedom. Those days are gone forever, Goodwood doesn't even come close I'm afraid.
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Eric Taylor
France
157 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2013 : 21:10:46
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And another 2. By the way the slides I've scanned, have all got Silverstone 65 written on them.
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Robin Hamblett
United Kingdom
534 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2013 : 22:40:58
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Is it possible, please , to have these wonderful pictures emailed to me please. Superb records for the register. And for the historical pictures section of the website.
Many thanks
Robin
J2 J3666 & J3 3764 |
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JMH
United Kingdom
911 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2013 : 23:19:31
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Eric, amoungst my Silverstone 65 photos, I have these two:
I'll dig out the programmes to confirm which entry lists match up withe the car numbers.
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Allan Bentley
United Kingdom
257 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2013 : 08:29:01
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Here is another of my brother Peter from that meeting. Could have been the Mary Harris Trophy which he won around this time. The car chasing him is Tony Miles in his(Le Mans PB?)
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Colin Butchers
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/04/2013 : 10:28:40
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The first two pictures are of K3013 (before Gerhard Maier turned it back into a proper K3) at a time when it was owned by John Kramer. In those days, competitors in the MMM races at Silverstone frequently turned up with the cars in road trim - no cissy things like trailers then.
I remember on one occasion driving up the A413 somewhere north of Aylesbury and being overtaken by John in AML 103 doing every bit of 80 mph, and the car contained at least two very pretty girls in addition to John who was driving.
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O.Thomas
United Kingdom
755 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2013 : 11:01:38
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| Love the trailer Jeremy!!! |
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JMH
United Kingdom
911 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2013 : 11:05:14
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I have checked the 65 programme. All the car numbers tie in with that years' MGCC Silverstone entry list.
71 - Malcolm Beer - NA0519
79 - John Cramer (with a "C" in the prog) K3013
80 - Geoff Coles
81 - Syd Beer QA0258
82 - Bruce Beer J3751
83 - Don Pitt/Mike Allison (co-driven in different races) K3021
84 - Mike Hawke J2396
In the 5 lap MMM handicap Stuart Milton (M Type) held on to win from the J3 & 2 K3s at an average speed of 50.1mph, phew!
To miss-key K3021 previously as K3023 I plead finger trouble - just too much of a senior moment to id it as EX135!
JH
Note: Confusion in my dim brain as J2396 also carried the No 84 at MGCC Silverstone in 1967. Also, the photos of Peter's PA & J2396 wearing No 87 are actually from the 1966 MGCC meeting. |
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Eric Taylor
France
157 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2013 : 13:13:59
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Some pictures scanned from Safety Fast July 1965.
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Gerhard Maier
Germany
873 Posts |
Posted - 07/04/2013 : 13:28:03
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What a pleasant surprise to find in this topic snap-shots of K3013, which date from a time before my first attendance at MG Car Club Silverstone in 1968.
In those years 1963 - 1964 John Cramer (his ancestors in Switzerland spelled Kramer), advanced K3013 mechanically to peak performance, and several times I heard the slogan since, that "it ran like sh1t from a shovel" !
I must admit that the body of the car at that time looked a bit "unhandsome", but it was the 5th body on the car since 1933, and John had added a old diesel tank from a lorry to replace the pointed tail.
The original first slab-tank, 2-seat body was already replaced for Donkin by Wilkie Wilkinson after only half a year, and later it even was equipped for a while with the split lengthwise and widened body of Harvey-Nobles QA0251.
So I hope it was excusable, that nearly 30 years ago I went "back to basics", by re-attaching the Ulster slab-tank 2-seat body.
Gerhard
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