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lordrob
Belgium
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 Posted - 22/12/2015 : 09:58:48
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Having owned PA/0393 (English reg no AKR941) since the early 1980's I have tried many times to aquire anymore info on it's first owner W.J.(Billy)Cope who seems to have been quite an active competitor in the thirties, he was a motor dealer from Bromley in Kent.
He owned a J2 (J2476-reg no YY3429) from June 1933 and then bought PA0393 (my car) in February 1934. At about the same time he owned PA1465 (BKN18) and then by 18/04/35 he bought C0281.
All this info I aquired mostly through Colin Butchers over the years.(you all well known I presume)
It seems to be quite difficult to find any photographs of Mr.Cope at work or even of any of the above mentioned cars in Mr.Cope's ownership,I anyway haven't seen any so far, so any info would be more then welcome and appreciated !
Merry Christmas and Prosperous New-year to you all,
Roby Cruyswegs (Belgium)
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Cathelijne
Netherlands
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Posted - 27/12/2015 : 17:46:47
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Hi Rob,
Nothing on your P-type, I'm afraid, and what I do know of Billy Cope is only very little too:
He not only owned C0281 from/in 1935, he also owned C0274 in 1933. Mike Hawke allocated Cope's trialling and grass track racing exploits to J2476, but this picture of the S&DMC grass track race meeting at Layham's Farm in August 1933 shows differently.
I find it hard to believe that there are no more pictures available of the many Triple-M cars Cope owned during his day. This is the only picture I have ever managed to find of his two C-types during his ownership. Neither car is known to exist today.
According to the Club News section in the June 1948 issue of Motorsport, one W.J. Cope is the club secretary for the New Zealand SCC. http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/archive/article/june-1948/33/club-news
And then there's this little snippet: http://www.triple-mregister.org/uploads/retro/scan28.pdf
Cheers,
Cat
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Colin Butchers
United Kingdom
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Posted - 28/12/2015 : 12:08:12
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Cat, There is a nice photo of Billy Cope competing with his J2 at Crystal Palace in a Speedway Meeting. It is on Page 516 of The M G Magazine for 1934. Sorry, I don't know the month. If you cannot find it let me know, and I will scan the page for you.
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lordrob
Belgium
225 Posts |
Posted - 28/12/2015 : 16:21:15
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Hi Cat,
Thank you very, very much for your investigation on this matter, this result has been the most interesting that has turned up over the years besides the info which Colin has unearthed !
I to find it hard to believe that there would be no more pictures available of the many Triple-M cars which W.J. Cope owned during his day, I'd love to see a picture of the man himself or of the cars he'd once campaigned !
Cheers,
Roby
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Colin Butchers
United Kingdom
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Posted - 29/12/2015 : 10:06:11
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Now that we know that Billy Cope's last known address was at 16 Grafton Road, Roseneath, Wellington, New Zealand, I wonder whether one of our NZ Members could try and follow up this lead. I think it is likely that Billy himself has passed on but possibly a family member might be sitting on a file of photographs and wondering what to do with them.
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mgmike
New Zealand
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Posted - 29/12/2015 : 22:19:50
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| Hi Colin, I will have a look around and see if I can find anything here in NZ. Do you know how long ago he was recorded at this address? |
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Cathelijne
Netherlands
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Posted - 30/12/2015 : 07:13:19
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| 1948, Mike ... Would be brilliant if we could find anyone related to him! |
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