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mgptype
United Kingdom
709 Posts |
 Posted - 05/06/2016 : 11:39:24
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Can anyone help with a pair of seat rake brackets and wing bolts, the one's that are fitted to the rear inner wheel arches. I have the fittings that go on the back of the back rest part but not the other brackets. Maybe removed from a car that now has bucket seats.
Fred.
EX PA 0788
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jeffsprig
United Kingdom
21 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2016 : 22:05:31
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Is it the same as a N type, if it is I have only one.
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George Eagle
United Kingdom
3240 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2016 : 22:41:31
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I believe the brackets are common to both P and Ns,.
George
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LewPalmer
USA
3244 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2016 : 22:58:27
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It is not difficult to make these out of brass stock. Here's the ones I made for my PA,
Just replace the ugly pivot screws with proper brass or copper rivets.
Lew Palmer
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mgptype
United Kingdom
709 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2016 : 23:52:48
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Hi Guy's.
I have a pair of these already thanks. The parts I am looking for are the fittings that are attached to the inner wheel arch and have a wing nut and probably a cone spacer that clamps the adjusters in position. I found a picture of one on Google.
Fred.
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LewPalmer
USA
3244 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2016 : 01:54:02
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Hmmm... can anyone else confirm the shape Fred posted is correct for a P type? If so I may need to remake mine, as mine are just a rectangular flat plate with a BSF stud in the middle and a wing nut silver soldered together from a few brass pieces.
Lew Palmer
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DDMDSN
New Zealand
329 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2016 : 02:34:44
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Gents
This photo from the barnfind PA shows it pretty well as Lew describes. Metal plate with a threaded rod mounted on a block and a 'Mickey Mouse' ears wing nut. The wing nut has the v spacer in situ, this than locks in to the slots along the adjuster slide.
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DickMorbey
United Kingdom
3679 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2016 : 08:10:14
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Fred, what you need is a simple rectangular steel plate with two countersunk holes for fixing through a same-sized plywood pad (covered in rexine or similar) that is secured to the inboard side of the inner wheel arch.
The steel plate needs a 5/16" BSF stud which projects towards the interior of the car as per Lew's picture. That in turn carries a V-spacer (available from S&V) and then the rabbit eared wing nut.
Dick Morbey
PA/PB 0743
Frieth, Oxon, UK |
Edited by - DickMorbey on 07/06/2016 08:50:10 |
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sam christie
United Kingdom
3108 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2016 : 09:14:39
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Apologies for momentarily going completely off topic but I notice the 'barn find' PA jack secured by a steel band. Is that a Harvey Frost screw jack? Were these standard issue?
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DDMDSN
New Zealand
329 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2016 : 09:40:32
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Sam
The jack holder is believed to be an original fitting.
From the earlier thread on tool kits, the tool kit from this barn find PA was identified to be a later fitment circa 1950s TD, and suspect the jack was fitted about the same time, before the car was put in to storage.
Do you know when the Harvey Frost screw jack was made?, this could help clarify the background.
The fittings for the seat adjuster however, appear completely original.
DOnald
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sam christie
United Kingdom
3108 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2016 : 10:12:51
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Thanks DOnald. I think the steel band is established as a feature but the jack puzzles me. I do not know when the Harvey Frost jack appeared. The seat adjusters certainly appear to be original.
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mgptype
United Kingdom
709 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2016 : 11:44:18
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Thanks to all who replied to my post, specially to Lew Dick Jeff and Donald. I am thinking the one in my picture is a modified TD side screen plate as in the Moss catalogue. I must admit it looks much better than the square plate that's fitted to the original barn find PA.
Fred.
EX PA 0788
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Oz34
United Kingdom
2543 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2016 : 18:03:43
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Fred, I agree with others as to the P's arrangement and Lew, you don't need to go back to the workshop! What you have shown Fred is definitely T Type although whether as specific as TD I wouldn't know.
As far as the V or cone spacer is concerned, the one original which came with my car has the base of the wingnut formed to perform that function. It is not actually conical, rather spherical but is actually part of the wingnut, not a separate piece.
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mgptype
United Kingdom
709 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2016 : 19:09:23
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Thanks for your comment Dave.
I will be making the brackets as per Lew's ones but probably with different nuts (T Type wing nuts). Personally though I still think the original set up looks cheep and nasty specially with a block of wood underneath. looks to me like it was done as cheep as possible.
Fred.
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LewPalmer
USA
3244 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2016 : 19:21:15
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Fred, Be aware that the block of wood is actually covered in piece of the same interior vinyl. When in place, it seems to blend in and is barely noticeable. But it is necessary to position the stud sufficiently toward the center of the car so as to not put too much side pressure on the adjuster.
And, I agree with Dave on the fact that the bottom of the wing nut is conical in shape and not a separate spacer.
Lew Palmer
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mgptype
United Kingdom
709 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2016 : 19:38:05
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Hi Lew,
I agree that the wood block is necessary for the correct alignment of the adjuster but to me it looks a bit tacky. The one in the picture I found and posted looks so much nicer. I guess I will make the plates like the original but with the nice T Type nuts would be the best of both worlds plus I can machine a radius on the bottom of the nuts without having a separate cone spacer.
Fred.
EX PA 0788
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