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J-Ch.
France
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 Posted - 22/10/2020 : 21:08:40
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Hello,
Let me introduce myself, my name is Jean-Charles, I am French and my only car is an Austin Healey 100M from 1955. Although a happy lover, I am interested in another car that would allow me to break time to time with so much modernity.
However, these pre-war cars are a universe of which I do not master at all the codes and quality criteria.
I spotted this ad and would like to benefit from your advice.
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C988635
But here on this site there is an F2 model also with an older restoration and without supercharger.
Do you think the price difference is justified?
Both cars have (at least partially) passed into the hands of Barry Foster who seems, if I may say so, the equivalent of the late Denis Welch for the Austin-Healeys.
Does installing a supercharger require more extensive preparation of the engine and the car?
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Onno
Netherlands
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Posted - 22/10/2020 : 21:50:52
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Welcome Jean-Charles
How wonderful that you have an intrest in triple M’s
Both the car you link to and the other one advertised as an F2 on that site are not original 2 seater F types.
They are most likely converted 4 seaters, and the one you link to has got a later crossflow engine fitted.
It all depends on what you are searching for
If originality is what you want I’d look at the wonderfull stiles F also advertised
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1212329
If you are looking for a touring car a N magnetre might be more suited
So what do you value in a car?
For the quiestion if I would pay more than £100000,- for an F type without significant history.....I’d rather buy 2 midgets ;)
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JCB
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23/10/2020 : 10:34:04
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Jean-Charles:
Welcome to MMM Register.
I Have a F Type; so I complement you on your taste in cars.
The car/cars in question; without further information are more then likely F1's.
You need further details from the seller. A full history if possible.
F2 and F3's are rare cars . See link.
https://www.triple-mregister.org/profiles/f-type.asp
With lovely empty Continental roads and a F Type touring car.
A sympathetic classic car garage and you are a lucky man.
All the best.
John Bakewell
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George Eagle
United Kingdom
3240 Posts |
Posted - 23/10/2020 : 10:46:27
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Hello Jean-Charles and welcome to the Forum from me.
I think you have excellent taste in choice of car, a genuine Austin Healey 100M is a very desirable car, and a 6 cylinder Triple-M car woul also be a good choice.
With regards to the car advertised for sale. From the Registration number MG 1535 I think it could be F0485. As Onno has indicated the car does not have an F engine - it could be K, L or N. I note the car also has a remote Q style gear change for a pre-select gearbox.
But from the chassis number it is not an F2 but an F1. The factory record unfortunately does not show what the original body was but, as Onno has indicated, it was most likely a 4 seat tourer which has been re-bodied as a 2 seater.
Despite the good specification the asking price of £126,000 would appear to be above the normal market value for an F type re-bodied as a 2 seat tourer.
George
Registrar F/L/N types. |
Edited by - George Eagle on 23/10/2020 10:50:00 |
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colintf
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23/10/2020 : 12:00:54
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Bonjour and welcome Jean-Charles,
you have many choices I think, to suit all budgets.
Firstly, I would think hard about what do I want the car for. Do I want something for touring locally, long distance touring / events or some more sportier intentions. This may then narrow down the potential selection of cars for you.
There are several on the market at the moment, each ticking different boxes, and I am not sure if one would tick all of the above use boxes or not.
in addition to those mentioned above these caught my eye, all for different reasons
in no particular order, other than the order that I found these in
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1273462
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1122295
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1120078
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1263869
https://www.barrywalker.com/1933-6-cyl-l-magna-for-sale/
I have no connection with any of the cars listed on this thread.
if one has been a competition / event car then it might also be worth researching how it has performed since it was built and used.
Happy Hunting - if I was in your position now I don't know which way I would jump, but a lot of fun could be had, and things learnt, along the way narrowing down the search and finding the right car for you
Colin
Colin Murrell
PA0786 (D0285 previously)
Photographer for MGCC (LeMans Classic, Oldtimer Grand Prix etc) & MG Motor (BTCC 2012-5)
http://www.triple-mracing.com/ |
Edited by - colintf on 23/10/2020 12:04:49 |
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Robert R
Austria
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Robert R
Austria
320 Posts |
Posted - 23/10/2020 : 15:21:17
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I have saved another picture. As far as I can remember, these are from Bonhams auctions.
Robert (F1164) |
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George Eagle
United Kingdom
3240 Posts |
Posted - 24/10/2020 : 10:18:30
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I note from the photo of the brass guarantee plate submitted by Robert that it is not original but is a replacement.
The number plate is original to another F1 that does not appear to have survived.
George
Registrar F/L/N types. |
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J-Ch.
France
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Posted - 24/10/2020 : 13:19:24
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Hello everyone !
Thank you for your exciting answers !
To clarify a little, although the Salonettes caught my eyes too, my research is oriented towards a 2-seater, - 6 cylinders without the “foot step” (is it the right word ?). The car would be a fast road evocation of pre-war English racing cars. A car that would be happy to travel through the Vosges mountains, especially under a kind of grizzled British sky when fuel and oxygen are at the height of joy.
I'm not necessarily looking for a car where every detail is absolutely authentic but the car must conform to what was done at the time and above all ... this car must be described for what it really is ...
Chassis No. KN 0267 is really a beauty to me but probably out of budget (And whatever happens the Healey will never be sold)
A car like this would suit me totally a priori (even with the doors of the tourer)
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colintf
United Kingdom
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George Eagle
United Kingdom
3240 Posts |
Posted - 25/10/2020 : 11:30:59
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Yes- the blown 6 cylinder cars do sound great!
Jean-Charles - I have sent you an email off line.
George
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