| Author |
 Topic  |
|
|
bloodysalmon
Spain
1482 Posts |
 Posted - 28/06/2010 : 09:04:23
|
Personally I have an aversion to the use of anything to do with Yahoo. However, I do find the Forum extremely useful to find information, request wanted parts and occasionally sell a few pieces, which makes it more of pain when ideally a photo can/ought to be attached to some script ... especially when you have to sign up for CLICKR and you then get streams of rubbish from Yahoo sources to your address.
I'm sure the question has been asked before but through my frustration I ask again to see if we can get a different method of adding pictures to this forum site ... please? ... just right-click & insert would be good!
Chris Blood (D0407, D0430 & F0753) |
|
|
ronald
Switzerland
35 Posts |
Posted - 28/06/2010 : 09:30:27
|
could not agree more!
Ronald |
 |
|
|
LewPalmer
USA
3242 Posts |
Posted - 28/06/2010 : 14:24:26
|
You are not restricted to Flickr. As long as you paste a valid URL which is the address of a JPEG/JPG photo, it will work. So if you have your own web site or use a different photo hosting service, the forum doesn't care. All of the photos I post are from my own web site.
Lew Palmer
Registrar, NAMMMR |
|
|
|
Peter Green
United Kingdom
1682 Posts |
Posted - 28/06/2010 : 18:44:20
|
Chris and Ronald,
At the time we initially added the facility for adding pictures to forum postings we were advised not to let members add pictures direct to a posting for several reasons. The first being security of the website, the second was the cost of the extra storage space and bandwidth needed (the pictures would be stored on our website not a remote one) and there were other technical difficulties that could cause problems.
I have today asked our webmaster, Nick Feakes, and the firm that maintains our website whether the above problems are still relevant.
Peter.
|
|
|
|
ht1962
Netherlands
114 Posts |
Posted - 28/06/2010 : 21:11:18
|
hello,
I have used www.photobucket.com without any problems for the last three years, I don't know if they have anything to do with Yahoo....
Regards,
Halbe Tjepkema |
|
|
|
kimber
United Kingdom
1529 Posts |
Posted - 28/06/2010 : 21:26:08
|
| Have used Flickr at no cost and trouble free for several years and to my knowledge I have never received any unsolicited communication from Yahoo. Works for me. |
|
|
|
bloodysalmon
Spain
1482 Posts |
Posted - 29/06/2010 : 12:34:13
|
I believe Peter has summed this up to extent by answering the key point of my query ... it is down to cost very clearly! while using a 'store & forward' method does provide security, surely the actual jpeg is still stored on the main server you pay for? But that does pose the question ... how does such product like FLICKR provide that security? Can't see it!
So as Peter says, for those that do not wish to use an outsourced location, perhaps further investigation will progress now to an easier solution ... if all the boxes are ticked of course. Cheers
Chris Blood (D0407, D0430 & F0753) |
|
|
|
Nick Feakes
USA
3372 Posts |
Posted - 29/06/2010 : 13:06:36
|
By using, for example FLICKR the image is stored on their server, not on ours. This forum is generated using third party software, within that software there is no specific accommodation for images.
There are several potential problems with allowing images to be inserted directly into these pages, cost of server space and bandwidth, the formatting of pictures so they fit correctly within the frame and are only a certain size (Mb). It is relatively easy for someone to upload an image (unknowingly) containing all sorts of nasty things that are not visible, so some sophisticated software is required for protection or we risk the loss of all the data within these forums.
Not impossible but not something to do without careful thought.
Nick
The difference between theory and practice is that in theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. |
|
|
|
Peter Green
United Kingdom
1682 Posts |
Posted - 29/06/2010 : 13:08:38
|
Chris,
It is not just down to cost, there are security concerns as well. The pictures are NOT stored on the Register's server but a remote one.
Peter. |
|
|
|
Peter Scott
United Kingdom
1240 Posts |
Posted - 29/06/2010 : 20:46:18
|
It is not long ago that members asked for the facility to show pictures with our posts. Nick F provided us with the facility and Peter G provided a write-up on how to use it. It has worked very well. I certainly have not had any problems with it and am grateful for the time and effort put in by Nick and Peter. 
Perish the thought that MMM members are becoming like some modern youth who cannot do anything unless it is just one 'click' away.  We happily spend hours in our workshops wrestling with some obstinate component, without a murmur (well not one that is repeatable). Surely a couple of minutes to post a picture is no great chore. 
Peter |
|
|
|
Onno
Netherlands
1044 Posts |
Posted - 29/06/2010 : 21:12:45
|
Peter
Being one of the youth (i gues) i can assure you we know how to link a picture (that is what is being done)
And for "us" not wanting to do anny thing more than "one click" away i think you under estimate us young ones!
Especialy when the internet is involved the younger the better can easly be stated, i for one am happy to spend hours in a workshop and wrestle with obstinate materials/components.
Well I gues this is just a normal generation gap when grumpy old men say the youth is doomed and the young say the old are stuck in their ways ;)
All is said with respect and a wink off course. |
|
|
|
Peter Scott
United Kingdom
1240 Posts |
Posted - 29/06/2010 : 22:50:29
|
Onno
Ah yes you are right. If you want to change the world and improve things then you need a younger man. We oldies are more than happy if we achieve a limited objective (eg a picture in our post on the forum) witout having to ask a ten-year-old for help.
Your grumpy old friend, Peter |
|
|
|
bloodysalmon
Spain
1482 Posts |
Posted - 30/06/2010 : 23:29:55
|
It's fair to say I have remained retisant to reply to the notes made in the past few days ... in a way really not to offend anyone. Of course that was & is not the intention nor where my remarks meant to challenge those that administrate the forum, which I regard highly and use daily. However, I can not resist repsonding to a number of comments made that both appear to be patronising and demeaning ... I hope and feel however that is shows only a humourous sarcasism.
I have worked for a Company for 33 yrs as highly specialised Computer Systems Programmer and Technical Project Manager and therefore I am fully aware of the volume of technology to 'skin-a-cat' ... honest, I know most of them including the apparant need to use store & forward sites for picture storage ... do people really, really think they are safe and do provide a secure mechanism ?!
Just because a system works for the few does not means it works for the majority nor is it right nor is it appropriate ... technology is often used because its there and not always because you need it.
When it comes to using providers like FLICKR and or Yahoo, you have to consider 'who' that is, why they do it for free and what support and how they have delivered in the past. Afterall we all consider who to vote for, what type of car we purchase, where we decide to live and go on holiday ...ok someone may just say its only a web site ... it can not be further than the truth ... remember what Mercedes Benz supported during the 2nd World War.
I suspect most will now say I've gone over the top ... I'll leave that up to you to decide, but thank you
Chris Blood (D0407, D0430 & F0753) |
|
|
|
ht1962
Netherlands
114 Posts |
Posted - 01/07/2010 : 07:48:34
|
Hello Chris,
Maybe it's time for you as a highly specialised Computer Systems Programmer and Technical Project Manager to help/join the team who run this excelent website.
regards,
Halbe |
|
|
|
ronald
Switzerland
35 Posts |
Posted - 01/07/2010 : 18:33:31
|
quote:
Originally posted by sam christie
What is the actual objection to Flickr and Yahoo? I use Yahoo Mail and Flickr and I have found the service from both superb and free.
Sam
The main agrument is to set up an account. Load the pictures, check them.
Then going back to the forum, remember the link ....... Do I want to do this????
I use other forums where I just can load pictures directly from my computer, and seems not to be causing any problems with regards to security or other.... |
|
|
|
Onno
Netherlands
1044 Posts |
Posted - 01/07/2010 : 19:44:29
|
use a more modern browser that supports tabed browsing like Firefox
then you can have the forum and flicker open side by side (and several forum threads and that fun page etc)
The security risk is not with the user but more with the forum when they have to constantly load content (pictures) from unknown sources (which in principle we all are) posibly containing all sorts of trouble.
no problems with flicker here
http://www.flickr.com/photos/onnokonemann/ |
|
|
| |
Topic |
|
Forum Locked
Topic Locked
