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Colin McLachlan
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 28/12/2010 : 10:52:47
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I've been trying to trace my MG TC, sold to an American in 1965, through the T Type forum, but all I have is the British registration number - no chassis or engine number. So far the T Register has been unable to help, and the only response from the Forum was a suggestion to try to get the chassis number by tracing the original UK registration.
Does anyone know how to go about this, please?
I realise this is technically non-MMM, but the info would apply to MMMs as much as to T Types, and, frankly, this forum is far more active  !
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sas
United Kingdom
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Posted - 28/12/2010 : 12:16:55
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Hello Colin,
Firstly, if you could give the registration number i may be able to put you on the right tracks.
Any and all additional info you have will be a bonus however irrelevant it may seem. When did you buy this TC.
You say it was sold to an American. But was he here as a serviceman or on business or over the pond, ie did the car go straight to the USA or remain in the UK. It could also have been exported to virtually any Country anywhere, some people move about a lot.
You rightly point out that this dilemma could affect any one irrespective of make or model of car and also from any era.
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Bob Stringfield
United Kingdom
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Posted - 28/12/2010 : 13:12:11
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Check the available records for the number through one of the standard reference sources, such as Philip Riden's 'How to Tract the History of your Car' or any of the lists of numbers printed in Insurance / Registration publications or the 'Glass's Guides' of the era.
If you Email me with the registration, I will be happy to see what there is, since I have the above sources.
Following that, the process may become simple or much more complicated! Again, I can advise.
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Colin McLachlan
United Kingdom
991 Posts |
Posted - 29/12/2010 : 11:20:23
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Hi Guys,
Thanks for the offers of help. The car was green when I bought it in Giffnock, Glasgow in 1965, reg DSR 646 (Angus CC), from Richard Whitmore, I think. I was living at 22 Eastwoodmains Road, Giffnock at that time, which is a suburb of Glasgow, but technically part of Renfrewshire, so I presume it was registered in Renfrewshire at that time. It was resprayed dark blue when I sold it about a year later to Major Robert Smith, a desk-bound lawyer based in W Germany at that time. He took it initially back to W. Germany (I remember this because he had to have the sale notarised by a Notary Public to satisfy the German import authorities), and I assume thereafter to the US, but I do not know that.
That's about as much detail as I can remember. Any help most gratefully received.
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Brian Kelly
USA
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LewPalmer
USA
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Posted - 29/12/2010 : 19:59:53
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In the event the TC is still in the US, you may want to check with the New England MG T Register. (www.nemgtr.org). This assumes, of course, that you are able to provide the chassis number.
Lew Palmer
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Colin McLachlan
United Kingdom
991 Posts |
Posted - 31/12/2010 : 15:15:57
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Brian, thanks for that. I've emailed the archivist, and got a phone call back within a few hours. Sorry Lew, still no chassis number. It had been my intention to contact the NEMGTR, but I realise this is hopeless without the chassis number.
I now have the following info: Registered by GA Ross & Co Garage, Friockheim, Angus on 6 November 1946. That's all that is available from the Archives of Angus County. Having checked the Kithead Trust website, I don't think that they will be able to add to that.
Is it possible that the MGCC will be able to locate a chassis file from the date of first registration? If so, whom do I contact?
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LewPalmer
USA
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Posted - 31/12/2010 : 16:41:39
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Originally posted by LewPalmer
Colin,
I can't speak for the TCs, but in most cases the Triple-M records list the selling dealer. Since we know the car was manufactured something before 6 November 1946, there will be relatively few cars sold by that dealer around that time. Thus, if the TC records list the selling dealer, it should be fairly easy to search the files for that dealer at that time and come up with a matching chassis number.
Contact with the TC registrar (it used to be Stuart Penfound in Brighton) might give you access to those files.
Lew Palmer
Registrar, NAMMMR
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John James
United Kingdom
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Posted - 31/12/2010 : 18:51:01
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Unfortunately, the 'T' Regsiter is not blessed with the records which the Triple-M Register is fortunate to have. The Triple-M records were saved from the skip but the 'T's and Y's weren't.
The only records held from The Factory are the Production Records, which list Chassis number, Engine number and date of production.
The Register of cars lists all known surviving TCs (getting on for 50% of production) and in some cases previous owners are listed.
Colin's chassis number would have been in the range TC1504 to TC1750 with the likelihood that it would have been towards the end of this range.
I doubt if Stewart Penfound will be able to help, but you could try him at stewart.penfound@btinternet.com
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Colin McLachlan
United Kingdom
991 Posts |
Posted - 31/12/2010 : 23:05:17
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Thanks Lew and John.
Following the suggestions on this thread I've made some progress, and we now seem to have narrowed the chassis number down to a range of about 250.
I'll pass the info on to Stewart Penfound and see if he can advance matters.
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