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Oz34

United Kingdom
2569 Posts

Posted - 23/09/2011 :  20:07:57  Show Profile
I don't know if anyone would be interested in this car with which I have no connection other than having seen the web site?

http://www.sussexsportscars.co.uk/classic_car/1286/1935_mg_pa/

It's PA 1964/OW 6881 & seems to be fairly complete although I think would require a fair bit of negotiation on £26000 (!!) for a car clearly in need of an extensive re-build.

Dave

Edited by - Oz34 on 23/09/2011 22:15:34

JMH

United Kingdom
913 Posts

Posted - 23/09/2011 :  20:51:03  Show Profile
Hey, I have a jack just like the one shown in those photos, donated to me 30 years ago when I acquired my first Mini Cooper - maybe it was "original" MG issue?
Seriously though, did anyone know of this car before it was "discovered"? It's also interesting how the dashboard has disintigrated, but the leather looks pretty good.
What's the story anyone?

JH
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PeterL

United Kingdom
1731 Posts

Posted - 23/09/2011 :  21:37:37  Show Profile
Looking at the pictures I think it has a severe case of woodworm...

P
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Cymber

United Kingdom
966 Posts

Posted - 25/09/2011 :  18:42:32  Show Profile
A lot of useful photographs of what must be a very original car, if only I could save them in other than thumbnail size. HELP PLEASE.

Maurice Blakey.

Edited by - Cymber on 25/09/2011 18:43:03
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F0355

South Africa
298 Posts

Posted - 25/09/2011 :  19:43:21  Show Profile
Maurice, click on the thumbnail to view the large image, then right click your mouse on the larger image and select "Save Image As" and save it in a folder of your choice. You need to do this for each pic. You do not need to close the large pic each time because if you click towards to outer edges of the pic you can go to the next pic or the previous pic. I found in some instances it would not offer "Save Image As" in the drop down window that appears when you right click the image so I simply left clicked towards the outer edge of the LHS of the pic to view the previous pic and then left clicked towards the outer RHS edge of the pic go back to the pic I wanted to save initially and right clicked it again. It then gave me the option of "Save Image As"....sometimes this process had to be performed twice to get the "Save Image As" option. Good luck!

Peter Steyn
Johannesburg, RSA

Edited by - F0355 on 25/09/2011 20:15:43
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Rodney Collins

United Kingdom
424 Posts

Posted - 26/09/2011 :  10:13:30  Show Profile
It Might be very original, but are they serious £26,000 for a rusty basket case! From experance it will take £30,000 to put this car back together properly, if it was a minter you would be lucky to get £26K.
Rodney
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Oz34

United Kingdom
2569 Posts

Posted - 26/09/2011 :  11:11:07  Show Profile
Quite agree Rodney!

Dave
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rossk

United Kingdom
495 Posts

Posted - 26/09/2011 :  20:44:59  Show Profile
Well they did want £195,000 for an Airline coupe not to long ago!
After having a look at the pictures I would say it is worth about 6-8k.

Ross Keeling

Edited by - rossk on 26/09/2011 20:47:12
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Pat B

United Kingdom
66 Posts

Posted - 27/09/2011 :  08:10:53  Show Profile
Question.......If £26K is the price you pay for such "extensive" originality then once it is restored, does it not become just another restored "PA" with an equal value ?
ie: Will not the premium paid for the originality of such a car be lost once restored ?
.........but then again, financial sense is often taken over by 'love at first sight'.

Pat.
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Bob Stringfield

United Kingdom
854 Posts

Posted - 27/09/2011 :  09:55:37  Show Profile
'Original' is a much abused term. My matching-number 1934 PA was first restored in the '70s and is therefore 'to original specification' but not 'original'.

My Mochet Vélocar recumbent bicycle is also 1934, but has never been restored or re-finished and even has its original tyres. Thus, it is 'original', but, because of this, its use is restricted.

Can anyone tell us the advantage of buying a car in the state of the Sussex one over a good PA for probably less money?

Bob.
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Richard Hardy

United Kingdom
2165 Posts

Posted - 27/09/2011 :  22:41:49  Show Profile
Some novices to the MG world do seem to get incredibly carried away when they see complete barn finds and sadly, this would be a rather costly restoration with so much needing replacing to produce a first rate restoration.

Pat raises an interesting point and £12,000 I would have thought would have been plenty. The Airline was being sold by the same trader I recall a couple of years ago and I did comment to him that he may need to come down by circa £130,000! Does anyone know what the airline finally went for

Rich

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Bob Clare

United Kingdom
278 Posts

Posted - 02/10/2011 :  00:27:22  Show Profile
Not wishing to steal Robin Hamblett's thunder, this car is chassis no PA 1964. It's been around the market for a while and was advertised on e-bay in 13/3/08 (ad 110232761766) for £15k. How's that for inflation??
Bob Clare
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Alan Bertram

United Kingdom
199 Posts

Posted - 02/10/2011 :  09:28:51  Show Profile
There has been some slight deflation as the initial asking price for this PA has now reduced from 26K to 21.5K, but still it has some way to go to make a refurbishment viable?

This rather incomplete old lady also still appears to be awaiting a knight in shining armour, with deep pockets, to rescue her.
http://www.nutleysports.co.uk/MGPAProject.htm

Regards, Alan.

Edited by - Alan Bertram on 02/10/2011 09:31:17
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Pat B

United Kingdom
66 Posts

Posted - 02/10/2011 :  09:48:29  Show Profile
Nutey Sports Cars recently sold a factory rubber bumpered GT V8 for £30K !! Whilst it was apprently a 'concourse' example, the world currently seems to be a car dealer's oyster.

Pat.
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greg

United Kingdom
835 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2011 :  02:10:59  Show Profile
The airline coup sold for 85,000 I think this p type is worth 18000 to 20000 as it's so original. The body looks wrotten so it really needs restoring. When it's restored it won't be the same car. It would be good if the panneling could be taken off carefully and put back onto a new body. You can't really see how bad the metal work is in the photos but I think the body is full of wood rot as the instruments are hanging by wires and cables.
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Rodney Collins

United Kingdom
424 Posts

Posted - 05/10/2011 :  09:14:29  Show Profile
What ever you do to this PA it will not end up original, unless you keep it as it is and put it into a see through carcoon and just look at it! You can even tow it around to shows and say its original! Sorry this car is worth 6 or 7K no more. 12to 15K and you can if you look pick up a good runner which with plenty of TLC and 10K will give you as good a PA as any. Had this car been kept in an air conditioned room for the past 70 odd years and was in as new condition I would say £35k max.

Rodney
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