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daveroberts
United Kingdom
75 Posts |
 Posted - 19/04/2012 : 21:43:04
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Dear All,
I am new to MMM and know little about M type details.
Is a centre throttle standard or not on an M type? A friend had an M type years ago, and claimed it has a centre throttle. I have seen illustrations showing a right hand throttle, but this might not be original.
Dave Roberts
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Keith Durston
United Kingdom
711 Posts |
Posted - 19/04/2012 : 22:01:24
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Hi Dave,
I believe the early M types had a centre throttle. This was placed directly under the steering column and required a shallow metal tray let into the floorboards to allow one's feet to clear the column. Later M types have a right hand throttle and this therefore did not require the foot tray. I have a couple of original toe boards that came with my M types and although both cars had right hand throttles the toe board has a hole where the original pedal would have come through and both have identical metal patches over this hole. My guess would be that the factory was either using up toe boards that had been in stock a while or never told the toe board maker to stop drilling the hole for the centre throttle. Having thought about this hole for a moment it would have meant that the throttle linkage would have been different as the throttle pedal would have had to come up through the toe board. My later ones have the throttle pedal suspended so that it comes over the top of the toe board.
I am not sure when the changeover happened but my cars are late 1930 and early 1931. Hope this helps.
Keith |
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bahnisch
Australia
674 Posts |
Posted - 20/04/2012 : 00:27:22
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| Keith is quite right, I have driven an early M-type and found the throttle position difficult to master. My M2737 has a right-hand side throttle. |
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Pat Widdup
New Zealand
399 Posts |
Posted - 20/04/2012 : 06:03:38
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| As with all M types the pedals are so small i drive mine with bare feet. Size 10 shoes give no room |
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Mike Allison
United Kingdom
196 Posts |
Posted - 20/04/2012 : 09:11:52
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The throttle position was changed at the end of the 1929 model, so far as I can make out when the brake system changed from the Morris cable and rod to H.N.Charles' all cable system. The original Midget was a rebodied Minor, but the Midget gradually acquired its own identity. Personally I think the change was made with the move of assembly to Abingdon, around chassis 2M/750, when the drawing office was finally established.
Hope this information is of help to those who worry about details...but it has to be said that clear change dates were never (even in my time at Abingdon!) a clear-cut thing, changes would be introduced and then old stocks of parts would be located which needed using up, and a reversion to a former "standard" happened.
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davies
United Kingdom
699 Posts |
Posted - 20/04/2012 : 09:20:59
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| According to the 8/33 spare parts list there was a change to the accelerator shaft assembly commencing chassis No 2251. The list also states that the Slow running rod and associated controls also commenced at chassis No 2251. Perhaps this was the change over of the accelerator pedal from central to side. Rich |
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davies
United Kingdom
699 Posts |
Posted - 20/04/2012 : 09:24:22
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Later M accelerator shaft assembly -
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MaGic_GV
United Kingdom
868 Posts |
Posted - 20/04/2012 : 10:24:00
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As a P-type owner, I am amused and charmed by the way that basic components have been carried through between two almost totally disimilar designs - i.e. the firewall brackets, which look identical. A small bit of continuity perhaps but nice to see.
Graham
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daveroberts
United Kingdom
75 Posts |
Posted - 20/04/2012 : 11:15:48
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Dear All,
Thank you for the information re. throttle pedal. It seems my friend and I were both right.
Dave.
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