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g waiting
United Kingdom
730 Posts |
 Posted - 29/07/2012 : 20:22:37
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Hi,
Does anyone have available to borrow to copy any original ash frame members?
I need sill, door hanging post ,wheel arch and back panel. Condition isn't important as long as shape and joints are clear.
Regards,
Garry |
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cardiffrob
United Kingdom
100 Posts |
Posted - 30/07/2012 : 09:54:49
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10 Miles west of Cardiff, if you can't find one closer. I'm probably not going to be able to strip it apart by myself so it would be a 'visit' or I'd need to find some willing helpers.
Rob |
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DickMorbey
United Kingdom
3682 Posts |
Posted - 30/07/2012 : 10:01:19
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Hello Rob
That frame looks strangely familiar!
Just as a matter of interest, is the front horizontal spar at the top, under the scuttle, stamped PA0743? If it is I'd be interested in it, because my new (12 years ago) body tub does lack this authentic piece of history!
Regards
Dick |
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g waiting
United Kingdom
730 Posts |
Posted - 30/07/2012 : 12:52:22
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Rob,
Thanks for that, I'm in Cumbria. I'll wait to see if anything nearer home crops up first.
Garry |
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Cymber
United Kingdom
966 Posts |
Posted - 30/07/2012 : 20:16:02
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Garry,
I'd be surprised if you don't already know this but Rique Llinares up in your part of the world will supply individual pieces of body frame woodwork.
Maurice Blakey. |
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cardiffrob
United Kingdom
100 Posts |
Posted - 30/07/2012 : 21:24:24
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Dick. Any ideas whereabouts I should be looking? Is it tiny or a BFH stamping?
I'm laid up with a fractured spine so any chance to save crawling endlessly about in the shed would be handy!!! |
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g waiting
United Kingdom
730 Posts |
Posted - 30/07/2012 : 21:37:52
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Hi Maurice,
Yes I know Rique very well. But I do like to do my own. Having said that he would probably loan me his patterns, but it seems a bit cheeky asking.
Garry |
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DickMorbey
United Kingdom
3682 Posts |
Posted - 30/07/2012 : 21:56:02
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Hello Rob,
Sorry to hear of your malady. The numbers are stamped on the rear-facing side of the top spar - it's the one next to the grey-painted steel front panel - and they're on the LHS.
From memory they are about 1/2inch high - or maybe a little smaller.
Dick Morbey
PA/PB 0743
Henley-on-Thames, Oxon, UK |
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LewPalmer
USA
3248 Posts |
Posted - 30/07/2012 : 22:34:47
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Dick and Rob,
The question of stamped numbers on the wooden spar came up before. I think I was the one that asked. They are not the chassis number but rather a somewhat sequential number depending on the body style. They start at (as I recall) with 2500 for Airline Coupes, for example, and increment by one for each body. I suspect they were the number assigned by Carbodies as built.
You are correct as to the location and size. Somewhere I have the numbers I was recording as answers to by question. I'll see if I can find it again.
Lew Palmer
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LewPalmer
USA
3248 Posts |
Posted - 30/07/2012 : 22:37:56
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Just found the numbers I recorded for Airline Coupe body numbers. Here they are:
Chassis # Last Known Owner Body Number
PA0286 Peter Briggs
PA0394 Ad Brands
PA0537 unknown
PA0539 Herman Goerl
PA0540 Anthony W. May
PA0756 R. Robles
PA0757 Miss J. Spooner
PA0758 Peter Scott
PA0759 unknown
PA0762 unknown
PA0764 unknown
PA0765 Max Nosbusch
PA0832 Dr. Curtis Beck
PA0833 John P. Goodacre
PA0834 Dick McClure
PA0835 Donald Caldwell 2915
PA0836 unknown
PA0837 R. T. Cass 2916
PA0838 D. R. Harris
PA0839 unknown
PA0840 unknown
PA1620 unknown
PA1623 Franklin R. Sprafke 2926
PA1810 unknown
PA1811 Emmanuel (Lou) Louchios 2928
PA1812 G. A. Martin
PA1813 unknown
PA2242 Gert Jensen
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PB0320 Ogawa Tokugoro
PB0321 unknown
PB0334 Jack Simpson 2931
PB0384 Kenneth Seymour
PB0386 unknown
PB0433 unknown
PB0436 unknown
PB0491 unknown
PB0560 Lew & Darlene Palmer 2938
PB0585 unknown
PB0608* Takahiro Nishio
PB0609* Peter D. Welch 2942
PB0610* H.G. Kohl ?
PB0611* unknown
PV3173 unknown
Lew Palmer
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Bruce Sutherland
United Kingdom
1579 Posts |
Posted - 31/07/2012 : 01:20:33
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Regarding body numbers on the ash frame cross-member, here's what my old original PB body looked like during strip:
Plus my new Rique Llinaries ash frame and body number:
Hope this helps.
Bruce. (PB0564) |
Edited by - Bruce Sutherland on 31/07/2012 01:32:07 |
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cardiffrob
United Kingdom
100 Posts |
Posted - 31/07/2012 : 20:10:05
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| Just been down to the shed. No sign whatsoever of a stamped number on the timberwork. N/S and O/S scratched roughly onto the side members, though. I'd take a guess at it having been rebuilt once before! |
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MH
Germany
199 Posts |
Posted - 31/07/2012 : 22:33:23
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Yes Lew, PB0610* H.G. Kohl, living in our town and the owner is H.G. Kohl. The Airline-Coupe is red over dark red.
regards
manfred
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cardiffrob
United Kingdom
100 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2012 : 16:25:57
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Photo of the ex DM body.
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LewPalmer
USA
3248 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2012 : 18:25:46
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Manfred,
The ownership of PB0610 was not in question, but the body number is. If he still has the body number on the wooden crossmember, I would very much like to have it.
By the way, I am in contact with a very early owner of PB0610. If Herr Kohl would like to get in touch with me, I'll pass on the details.
Lew Palmer
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g waiting
United Kingdom
730 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2012 : 08:47:37
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.....................and in the mean-time I have been to see Rique llinares, borrowed some patterns from him and am making copies. He sends his regards by the way.
Rob and Maurice thanks for your help.
Garry |
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