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KevinA
New Zealand
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 Posted - 03/03/2018 : 08:46:10
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Motorcycle Apprentice: Matchless - in name & reputation
Bill Cakebread
Veloce Publishing Ltd, 2008
This is the inspiring story of how a young Londoner with no academic qualifications and low expectations built a successful career based on an apprenticeship with Associated Motor Cycles Ltd, and eventually became Managing Director of his company
It also recounts his buying an M type, JO95. The boat tail fell apart so he and his father built a flat back but didn’t manage to get it back on the road
Can anyone add anything?
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George Eagle
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/03/2018 : 10:20:02
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The Registration number JO 95 is not listed in either the Register or the factory records - the nearest is JO 96 which is the Registration number for 2M1933.
George
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Malcolm Eades
United Kingdom
383 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2018 : 10:27:25
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The number is not live at the DVLA either, so at least it has not been lost to the personalised market.
Malcolm
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Mike the M
United Kingdom
485 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2018 : 11:58:02
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There seems to be a number of "JO" registrations coming up!
From the M type JO 1 to this JO 95 and JO 516 on the postcard!
The registration file is available at the Oxford Records Office if anybody would go and record all the MG cars that are recorded in the book, please.
I did the DV numbers in Exeter the other day and it only took an hour or so! there were five 18/80 and 22 M types!
There may be more in Oxford!
Cheers, Mike
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CrashBox
United Kingdom
41 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2018 : 16:54:07
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Good day, this thread has been brought to my attention over on the Pre-War Minor Forum, so thought I'd mention here too, that I'm heading down to the Midlands next weekend and I've pencilled in Wednesday 14th March for a visit to the Oxford Records Office to research JO 5914 which was the original registration number of my 1932 Minor. I shall try to find any JO marks given to M-Types when I have the records to hand. Hope that is of use to the register.
Regards
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KevinA
New Zealand
699 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2018 : 19:13:01
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Jon. I'd be really interested to hear of any 18/80s you might discover there if it's not too cheeky to ask
Thanks
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CrashBox
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/03/2018 : 19:30:47
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| I can't promise but I'll do my best. I won't have a lot of time to spend at the records office so only intend to peruse JO index mark. I'm not too familiar with the 18/80, so can I ask if I need to look for any other name it might be recorded as? |
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KevinA
New Zealand
699 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2018 : 19:53:08
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18/80 or possibly just MG six. 2468cc
The mark 1s have a 4 digit chassis number beginning with 6, and the mark 2s start A0xxx
We know of quite a few, JO29, JO51, JO57, JO507, JO530, JO550, JO551, JO585, JO770, JO2255, JO4330.
As I said though only if its not too much of an imposition. You'll probably have your work cut out just dealing with the volume of Ms and Minors
Thanks
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CrashBox
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/03/2018 : 17:51:48
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Are you needing any information on JO 29 to JO 4330 or have you got all the details you need?
As a matter of interest, do any triple M cars originate in Zetland (Shetland) and carry a PZ index mark? I'm happy to pop into the archives office down in Lerwick on my next visit. |
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KevinA
New Zealand
699 Posts |
Posted - 04/03/2018 : 19:50:30
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Hi Jon
I suppose the main thing is identifying any others rather than extra info on the listed ones, except JO530. This was the sister car to my own and the only one that I know that shared some of its features/peculiarities. As such I'd be keen to learn anything there might be.
I personally don't know any PZs but if you get the opportunity it would be worth a look, even if you only end up ruling them out. If everyone checked their local office it could add an awesome amount of information
Thanks again
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CrashBox
United Kingdom
41 Posts |
Posted - 04/03/2018 : 21:27:43
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Just watching a programme about motorbikes on BBC Four. There's a Brough Superior with the number JO 1170. Having taken a look on the DVLA website the bike was 'first registered' in April 1978 and manufactured in 1934. Given that the JO 5900s were registered around December 1932, I'm hazarding a guess this isn't the original number. I'll try and check it out during my visit.
Edit:- Just found a 1930 Brough Superior registered JO 1134.
Edit 2:-Just found a PDF of a 1968 publication that states JO 1170 is a 1930 Brough Superior SS100. DVLA have the wrong build year on their system. |
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KevinA
New Zealand
699 Posts |
Posted - 04/03/2018 : 22:01:42
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Around the 70s and certainly well into the 80s if you applied for a re-issue of an original number the v5 would state exactly what you have described. The first registered date would be the date it was first entered onto the computer.
I did it with a car and it stated manufactured 1934, first registered 1985, no of previous owners none since 1985.
I argued about the first registered date and they conceded.
My V5 then said manufactured 1934, first registered 1934, no of previous owners none since 1934.
I had a one owner from new car, and no I wasn't that old!
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/03/2018 : 22:53:16
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quote:
Originally posted by CrashBox
As a matter of interest, do any triple M cars originate in Zetland (Shetland) and carry a PZ index mark? I'm happy to pop into the archives office down in Lerwick on my next visit.
PZ registration numbers are early 1950s Belfast. Perhaps Shetland is PS?
Simon J
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creamcracker
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/03/2018 : 08:10:04
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Hi, Jonathan.(Crashbox)
I've been contemplating visiting the Oxford Records office myself for some time , but never seem to get the time. For my inspiration, can you tell me if you have to pre-book an appointment and what is the address & post code for the office?
This might spur me into action. Thanks. Keith
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KevinA
New Zealand
699 Posts |
Posted - 05/03/2018 : 08:39:59
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Keith
my 1991 Philip Riden book gives the address as Oxfordshire Archives, County Hall, New Rd, Oxford OX1 1ND 0865 815203
Obviously the phone number needs another 1 adding these days assuming it is still current
It says they have the records for JO, BW, FC, WL, UD
That should be enough to keep you going!
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colintf
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/03/2018 : 11:02:04
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quote:
Originally posted by KevinA
Keith
my 1991 Philip Riden book gives the address as Oxfordshire Archives, County Hall, New Rd, Oxford OX1 1ND 0865 815203
Obviously the phone number needs another 1 adding these days assuming it is still current
It says they have the records for JO, BW, FC, WL, UD
That should be enough to keep you going!
Kevin
Hi Kevin, out of interest, does it have similar details for "ws" from the 1947-49 era? (for my fathers MG TC)
Many thanks
Colin
Colin Murrell
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