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DickMorbey
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 24/04/2018 : 22:21:02
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The Triple-M Register is part of the MG Car Club and our committee is often asked to explain what 'membership' of the Register means. It is increasingly evident that there is some misunderstanding on the matter!
Frankly we haven't helped ourselves by using the word 'Member' to describe those of us who have registered to join the website discussion forum. The word 'Subscriber' would probably be more appropriate.
With the aim of making things a little clearer, we're going to rename forum Members as 'Subscribers'. If you have registered to make postings to the Forum this change won't make any difference at all to your permitted use of the Forum. You won't have to re-apply and there is no implication that a subscriber will have to pay for this facility - you won't!
But it's easy to see why the whole member 'thing' is confusing to many. It is because of the way the MG Car Club is structured. It goes a bit like this:
1. If you are a member of the MG Car Club you pay an annual sub, and can enjoy all the benefits offered by membership of the Club. The acid test of whether you are a Club member is that members should receive a copy of the monthly Safety Fast! magazine.
2. MG Car Club members who also own a Triple-M car (assuming they have declared that to the Club) are automatically made members of the Club's Triple-M Register.
3. So I hear you ask: 'I'm not a member of the MG Car Club but I have a Triple-M car. Where does that leave me?' Well, the answer is that if you have told us that you have a Triple-M car, we will record your ownership on our listing of cars, assuming the car meets our criteria for inclusion on the listing. That is very important, because we need to record the condition and history of your car. So in that event, although the car is listed on the listing of cars, you as an individual are not a 'member' of the Register. Of course we would encourage you to join the rest of us who are Members of the MG Car Club!
Does this help to explain things? I hope so, but please contact me or a committee member if any of the above needs to be made clearer. Thanks!
Dick Morbey, Register Chairman |
Edited by - DickMorbey on 24/04/2018 22:35:20 |
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
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Posted - 24/04/2018 : 22:42:02
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Dick,
The Club, i.e. the MG Car Club, doesn't help matters by defining a Register as an association of members owning specified models of vehicle, and then requiring Registers to keep a Register of eligible cars, which, of course, includes cars whose owners are not members of the MGCC and thus are not members of the Register. And that's even before we get to defining 'owning' a car!
Simon J
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Malcolm Eades
United Kingdom
383 Posts |
Posted - 25/04/2018 : 16:27:14
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Simon,
Can you point me to the place where that definition of a Register appears, please. It's not on the current MGCC website Registers page.
Malcolm
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DickMorbey
United Kingdom
3687 Posts |
Posted - 25/04/2018 : 17:29:03
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Malcolm, I think you'll find that it's in the Club's Articles of Association.
Dick Morbey
PA-PB 0743
Frieth, Oxon, UK |
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
6302 Posts |
Posted - 25/04/2018 : 18:03:29
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Malcolm,
It's in Article 1 (Interpretation) of the Club's Articles of Association. Article 92 is where it's stated that the Registers shall provide where possible and appropriate 'The maintenance of a Register of eligible cars indicating history and other relevant details'.
Simon J
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Edited by - Simon Johnston on 25/04/2018 18:09:16 |
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Nick Feakes
USA
3493 Posts |
Posted - 25/04/2018 : 18:59:07
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Simon
A perfect example of the confusion that this (small change) is attempting to circumvent; Article 92.2 "An advisory service to members .............". I assume the article is referring to members the MGCC?
Nick
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
6302 Posts |
Posted - 25/04/2018 : 19:59:12
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Nick,
It's an advisory service to Members, not members, and 'Members' are defined thus:
(The reference to 'member' in Article 78 is in relation to CRB committee members.)
Simon J
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P.S. If you go to the document properties of the pdf file for the Articles of Association you'll find the author credited as one Richard Morbey(Who he?  ) |
Edited by - Simon Johnston on 25/04/2018 20:03:21 |
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DickMorbey
United Kingdom
3687 Posts |
Posted - 25/04/2018 : 21:50:39
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It was a team effort!
Dick Morbey
PA-PB 0743
Frieth, Oxon, UK |
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
6302 Posts |
Posted - 25/04/2018 : 22:02:05
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Excuses, excuses!
Simon J
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Nick Feakes
USA
3493 Posts |
Posted - 26/04/2018 : 00:34:22
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I rest our case!
Nick
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coracle
United Kingdom
2074 Posts |
Posted - 26/04/2018 : 10:30:18
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quote:
Originally posted by DickMorbey
It was a team effort!
Dick Morbey
PA-PB 0743
Frieth, Oxon, UK
I understand the camel was also the result of such an effort, but by a different team. |
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Malcolm Eades
United Kingdom
383 Posts |
Posted - 26/04/2018 : 17:13:57
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Thanks for the clarification, Gents. It couldn't be more formal, could it?! The problem is that "register" has different meanings, depending on the context.
Dick, is it still the case that members of an affiliated overseas club are also accorded register services as if they are members of the home Club? In the interests of international relations, an edit to your original posting on these lines might help prevent our loyal international members from feeling out in the cold.
Malcolm
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LewPalmer
USA
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Posted - 26/04/2018 : 18:16:54
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That is true, Malcolm. However, even though members of the national register - in our case the North American Triple-M Register, the one thing necessary to complete the process is that the national register needed to become a recognized affiliate of the MGCC and the Triple-M Register. No one here recognized that until Dick Morbey kindly pointed that out to our chairman.
Thanks for the discussion.
Lew Palmer
Registrar, NAMMMR
Lew Palmer
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Cooperman
United Kingdom
779 Posts |
Posted - 13/05/2018 : 12:46:19
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quote:
Originally posted by coracle
quote:
Originally posted by DickMorbey
It was a team effort!
Dick Morbey
PA-PB 0743
Frieth, Oxon, UK
I understand the camel was also the result of such an effort, but by a different team.
and the giraffe!
John Cooper M 628 |
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coracle
United Kingdom
2074 Posts |
Posted - 13/05/2018 : 15:36:12
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DickMorbey
United Kingdom
3687 Posts |
Posted - 13/05/2018 : 21:08:01
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I have just stumbled upon Malcolms posting at 26 April and I’m happy to confirm that anybody who is a member of an overseas Club that is affiliated to the MG Car Club is very much regarded as a Member for our purposes. Sorry for the delay in replying.
Dick Morbey
PA-PB 0743
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