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DickMorbey

United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/02/2022 :  18:42:29  Show Profile
I came across this photo in some ancient Register files just now. The car in the foreground is undoubtedly J2966, date and location n/k but perhaps when it was owned by Terry Holden or Eric Tieche.

The car behind it is YY 6801 which has been variously recognised as J3131, J2236 or J2336

Any clues please?

Thanks!





Dick Morbey, Register Secretary
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Frieth, Oxon, UK
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KevinA

New Zealand
670 Posts

Posted - 07/02/2022 :  21:45:03  Show Profile




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colintf

United Kingdom
1501 Posts

Posted - 07/02/2022 :  21:54:52  Show Profile
That could be Tony D stood between the 2 cars ?

I do love these old photos.

Colin Murrell
PA0786 (D0285 previously)
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Edited by - colintf on 07/02/2022 21:55:47
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tholden

United Kingdom
1638 Posts

Posted - 07/02/2022 :  23:35:29  Show Profile
Dick that photo was taken during Colin Tieche's ownership of the car in the early 70's. I think he raced it once , maybe twice with the 18 inch wheels but it did not handle well.

I purchased the car from Colin, took it apart, rebuilt the engine, brakes, steering, suspension etc and sorted it to race again after quite a few hard years in Colin's hands.

Here I am trying not to be overtaken by Mr Hawke in his customary cornering pose at Silverstone May 78. Think I managed third place that day. I later sold the car to Lawrence Moore who had it for many years before selling it to Eric Tieche who replaced the cycle wings with the original swept wings from my current J2 after spending many months patching and repairing them.

It was always a very quick J2 and stopped well with its Morris 8 hydraulic brakes. I think Eric left the car to a relative who, I believe, still owns it.

It was often confused with Eric's original J2, MG 2853 because they were both the same shade of red and had similar registration numbers. Indeed they featured together in a comedy TV programme in the 1970's which played on the similarity of the two cars. MG 2853 was subsequently owned, raced and used extensively by Phil Coombs but now has a new owner in Stephen Rees who is planning to campaign it this year.
PS Sure looks like Tony maybe he can confirm location.






TH

Edited by - tholden on 07/02/2022 23:37:40
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Dolts

United Kingdom
1129 Posts

Posted - 08/02/2022 :  11:48:12  Show Profile
YY6801 is Dads old J2. yes that's him standing between the two cars

Oh the joys of identification. What I do know is the car with YY6801 was owned from 1964 by Dad. I have a pic of the 1966 log book that states J2131. So it's an old error if its not!

Plucked from a maidenhead field with a PA. The PA Engine was used in YY6801. Heavily campaigned in standard, then J4 guise. Sold in 1978 to Japan with Lightweight pointy tail body.

Resto in 1968 or so...





Car in early outing in early 70s





IN J4 guise with vanwall wheels




Now in Japan this is about 6 yrs ago i think








Mark Dolton
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colintf

United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/02/2022 :  11:58:04  Show Profile
thanks Mark :)

Colin Murrell
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Dolts

United Kingdom
1129 Posts

Posted - 08/02/2022 :  12:23:45  Show Profile
I wouldnt refer to it as a mystery car...

Mark Dolton
Triple-M Racing

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Cathelijne

Netherlands
744 Posts

Posted - 08/02/2022 :  13:24:23  Show Profile
Us database nerds would, Mark! Especially as you have just quoted a fourth chassis number !

Cheers
Cat

In a world where you can be anything - be kind.
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Dolts

United Kingdom
1129 Posts

Posted - 08/02/2022 :  13:26:54  Show Profile
Ahhh yes a mystery number!

Mark Dolton
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Dolts

United Kingdom
1129 Posts

Posted - 08/02/2022 :  13:27:47  Show Profile
I ll see if I still have the contact details for the Japanese owner!


Mark Dolton
Triple-M Racing

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Nick Dean

United Kingdom
444 Posts

Posted - 08/02/2022 :  19:19:23  Show Profile
The white cycle wing PA behind YY6801 cornering was Nigel Reilly in the Centric blown car Reg; US 8752. Nick.

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Dolts

United Kingdom
1129 Posts

Posted - 08/02/2022 :  19:30:42  Show Profile
correct Nick, I helped restore the car for a very good friend. Had planned to race it for him in 2020 but some crazy virus scuppered our plan! Now been sold and I hope the new owner will bring it out in the future! Some serious power!

Mark Dolton
Triple-M Racing

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Dolts

United Kingdom
1129 Posts

Posted - 08/02/2022 :  19:47:02  Show Profile












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colintf

United Kingdom
1501 Posts

Posted - 08/02/2022 :  21:21:52  Show Profile
Come on MB, don't be shy. 2022 season awaits :)

Colin Murrell
PA0786 (D0285 previously)
Photographer for MGCC (LeMans Classic, Oldtimer Grand Prix etc) & MG Motor (BTCC 2012-5)
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DickMorbey

United Kingdom
3677 Posts

Posted - 09/02/2022 :  19:52:56  Show Profile
Thanks Mark and all
Reverting to the Dolton J2131 I found this pic, contributed by John Harris in c2006 - showing the car out and about in c.1968

Dick Morbey, Register Secretary
PA-PB 0743
Frieth, Oxon, UK
secretary@triple-mregister.org




Edited by - DickMorbey on 09/02/2022 19:53:28
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Dolts

United Kingdom
1129 Posts

Posted - 10/02/2022 :  06:53:07  Show Profile
What a fab photo! Thanks Dick

Mark Dolton
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