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poulsendk
Denmark
270 Posts |
 Posted - 25/07/2014 : 06:44:50
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Hi. What type of 6 cyl MG with a spicial body is this ? Somebody knows its histori ?
Jørgen Poulsen
MGM 1930 MGM 1931 |
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O.Thomas
United Kingdom
755 Posts |
Posted - 25/07/2014 : 06:52:29
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| Looks like a R.E.A.L body to me?? |
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Colin Butchers
United Kingdom
1487 Posts |
Posted - 25/07/2014 : 10:28:13
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Mike Hawke's notes suggest that AXK128 is an L Type, but he was unable to quote a chassis number.
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George Eagle
United Kingdom
3237 Posts |
Posted - 25/07/2014 : 11:59:05
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The radiator shell and the dashboard layout would suggest it is an L type.
I agree the body style looks like a R.E.A.L.
George
L2023 |
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PeterL
United Kingdom
1722 Posts |
Posted - 25/07/2014 : 17:28:27
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Rear of chassis suggests an L1...
Cheers
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MJM20
United Kingdom
111 Posts |
Posted - 25/07/2014 : 19:00:38
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Hi
Could someone explain the meaning of the words behind the abbreviation, for myself a relatively new and intrigued enthusiast.
Thanks
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Robin Hamblett
United Kingdom
534 Posts |
Posted - 25/07/2014 : 22:13:51
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I'm unsure whether there is a breakdown of the REAL into words. REAL made a body for J2083, have a look at the members pictures area for a picture of this car, with unique shaped body.
Regards
Robin
J2 J3666 & J3 3764 |
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poulsendk
Denmark
270 Posts |
Posted - 26/07/2014 : 07:45:29
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Hi. Here is more about the MG. ???
Jørgen Poulsen
MGM 1930 MGM 1931 |
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Colin Butchers
United Kingdom
1487 Posts |
Posted - 26/07/2014 : 10:38:24
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R.E.A.L. Carriage Works was a company specialising in "bespoke" car bodies and were based at Popes Lane, Ealing, London in the 1930s. I have not been able to find out what the initials stood for, but I have a feeling that articles on this firm have appeared in MMM Bulletins and/or Yearbooks in the past. A feature of R.E.A.L. bodies were the rather prominent double fairings behind the driver and passenger's heads, which some people might regard as very attractive, whilst others would disagree (perhaps vehemently !)
The written "history" displayed by this car must be taken with a degree of scepticism, I think. 230 kph (143 mph) is going some even for a blown 1100cc engine. The fastest lap speed recorded at Brooklands for a highly tuned unblown L Type engine was 102.34 mph, which possibly represented a maximum speed of around the 110 mark. Another L Type, driven by H L Maddick (said to be one of the Works prepared L2s) ran with 6 separate Amal carburettors and a fairly "wild" camshaft, and Maddick hoped that the car would exceed 110 mph but in fact, he could never get more than 104 mph out of it.
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JMH
United Kingdom
911 Posts |
Posted - 27/07/2014 : 21:11:57
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I stand to be corrected, but only two 6 cylinder 1100cc MMMs achieved over 140 mph before the war, neither was an L Type and neither had two seat bodywork - it took a lot more than a blower + head fairings methinks!
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john wells
United Kingdom
31 Posts |
Posted - 29/07/2014 : 21:09:41
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| I came across this car in about 1970 when it lived in Clitheroe Lancashire. I think the owners name was Gregson. It looked just the same then even the colour, I think I have a slide of it somewhere when I find it will get it copied and post it |
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Ken Hall
United Kingdom
27 Posts |
Posted - 30/07/2014 : 15:58:04
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| Malcolm Green`s "MG Road Cars" tells us R.E.A.L. stands for R.E.Altman Ltd. Do we know how many MMM cars were so bodied? I remember seeing one in the Town Hall car park in Worthing in the early 1960`s which from memory was on an L Type chassis. It belonged to an interesting Australian Frank Lerner, who lived on a static motor torpedo boat in Shoreham Harbour; his ambition being to fettle it and sail back to Australia. |
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Vitesse
United Kingdom
234 Posts |
Posted - 31/07/2014 : 22:13:24
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quote:
Originally posted by JMH
I stand to be corrected, but only two 6 cylinder 1100cc MMMs achieved over 140 mph before the war, neither was an L Type and neither had two seat bodywork - it took a lot more than a blower + head fairings methinks!
JH
With the date of 1935 being quoted I'd guess this is extrapolated from the closing speed of one of Kohlrausch's 130+ runs in EX135 at Gyon! Or maybe Frankfurt 1936? Those were just over 140.
The Napier-Railton's perpetual Brooklands lap record is 143 and change. It had a bit more than 1100cc to play with ... |
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McEvoy
United Kingdom
252 Posts |
Posted - 31/07/2014 : 23:10:07
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Just for the record I think you will find that Kohlrausch did not ever drive EX 135, his mount being EX 127 with which at Gyon in May 1935 he achieved records over the flying and standing start mile and kilometre distances it was not until a later attempt he achieved a shade over 140 MPH for the flying mile using the Frankfurt Autobahn.
This speed in Class H being surpassed by Goldie Gardner driving EX 135 in 1946.
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Colin Butchers
United Kingdom
1487 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2014 : 10:19:55
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The Naper-Railton's record lap speed at Brooklands of 143.44 mph was of course the average for an entire lap of the Outer Circuit. The fastest speed recorded for the N-R was over 150 mph. This, and the remarkable speeds recorded by Kohlrausch in both EX127 and EX154 simply underline the rather unlikely claim of 140 mph said to have been obtained in the blown L Type with the R.E.A.L. body.
It would be nice to establish the chassis number of the L Type to see whether the claim of it being "an original Brooklands racing car" can be proved.
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poulsendk
Denmark
270 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2014 : 14:57:53
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I will try to find the chassis number
Jørgen Poulsen
MGM 1930 MGM 1931 |
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