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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 26/10/2014 : 19:16:59
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Any takers on this one?
And the car behind?
Simon J
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George Eagle
United Kingdom
3299 Posts |
Posted - 26/10/2014 : 21:07:47
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Looks like a very stripped/lightened P type, or is it possibly an N type because it almost looks as if it has the wider track?
Second car looks very J.
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PeterL
United Kingdom
1800 Posts |
Posted - 26/10/2014 : 21:22:50
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No, don't agree... no scuttle humps.
Its an F, Tell it from a mile off!!!
OK Simon what's the real answer.
Cheers
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
6536 Posts |
Posted - 27/10/2014 : 06:02:33
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Still to be confirmed, but my initial feeling is that it's an L as the results give the capacity as 1086 c.c. and it looks to have the Magna sloping radiator. But clearly with a home made special body so hard to say if it's an L1 or an L2.
The one behind is rather interesting and I've blown up the photo to show it a bit more clearly.
What looks like a slatted radiator grill, the dark rears wings and the driver's jaunty cap are the giveaway! As a contemporary report put it:
'Mr. J.M. Toulmin, the popular Preston driver, who last year did the fastest time in an unsupercharged car,was less fortunate on Saturday. His distinctive peaked cap and his attractive M.G., the "Cream Cracker", were greeted with applause on each appearance, but he had to be content with two "thirds" for his four ascents.'
The results show the car to have been 1292 c.c. so clearly a TA although he had competed successfully in TJ 5000 (PA 0337) the previous year.
Simon J
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Tim
United Kingdom
79 Posts |
Posted - 27/10/2014 : 07:59:28
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| The number 5 car is seriously stripped for racing but the owner seems loath to part with his Lucas Altette horn. Perhaps a lightweight aluminium racing one? |
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Colin Butchers
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27/10/2014 : 10:24:24
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The second car is most likely chassis number TA0930 - Reg. Number
ABL 960.
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
6536 Posts |
Posted - 27/10/2014 : 10:40:01
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Thanks, Colin, just what I needed to fill in some gaps in my Craigantlet research. Interestingly the next year, 1938, Maurice Toulmin turned up with one of the Musketeers with the overbored VA engine (1708 c.c.). Would you have any idea which car that might have been?
Tim, I'd noticed the Altette as well and it does seem odd that he kept it on the car while everything else that could be taken off was removed.
The problem with identifying these cars is that so far I don't have entry lists - only results. So knowing that the car in question is number 5 is no help at all as I only have info on drivers and, in some cases, engine capacities. It seems likely that number 5 was driven by Dr. R.J. Adams but more info needed to confirm this.
Simon J
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PeterL
United Kingdom
1800 Posts |
Posted - 27/10/2014 : 14:15:44
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And the horn attached to the wing stay point on the radiator... Special job. An L then...
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O.Thomas
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27/10/2014 : 16:46:42
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| I think it is R . Adams . Seem to recall it was a continental converted to a special. Didnt he become quite a famous driver in NI after the war Simon? Sure he wrote a book on his exploits as well, oliver |
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
6536 Posts |
Posted - 27/10/2014 : 17:01:34
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Indeed it could be Ronnie Adams who competed in the Monte Carlo rally in a Jaguar Mk 7. I'll check that out. Thanks.
Edit: He won the Monte in the Jag in 1956. And to quote from his obituary:
"In 1934 he talked his father into buying a new MG sports car in which he entered hill-climb competitions; "
Simon J
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O.Thomas
United Kingdom
755 Posts |
Posted - 27/10/2014 : 17:08:37
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
6536 Posts |
Posted - 27/10/2014 : 17:10:06
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Brill. Another one ticked off the list. Thanks.
Simon J
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Colin Butchers
United Kingdom
1487 Posts |
Posted - 28/10/2014 : 10:21:09
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Simon,
For 1938 Maurice Toulmin had a TA fitted with the 1708cc lump, which carried the very odd chassis number EX155/2 and Reg. Number BBL 78. I can't promise that this was the Craigantlet car, but it is likely that it was.
There doesn't seem to be a note anywhere of who had chassis number EX155/1. I wonder why that was ?
Colin B.
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
6536 Posts |
Posted - 28/10/2014 : 11:28:36
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Thanks, Colin, info added to the list (with the usual caveats!)
Simon J
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
6536 Posts |
Posted - 28/10/2014 : 17:09:54
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Clearly attaching the horn to the wing stay bracket on the radiator was de rigueur for aspiring hill climbers! This is Maurice Toulmin in his Cream Cracker on the start line in 1935
Simon J
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Nick Feakes
USA
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Posted - 28/10/2014 : 19:13:54
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Obviously to reduce wind resistance!
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