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JMH

United Kingdom
911 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2015 :  16:58:29  Show Profile
The survival rate of KNs is better. Strange, but true (let's not go there...). 50% of the J2 survivors as "runners" is probably not that far off, but just because a car's a runner doesn't mean the owner is "active" within the MGCC or other Car Clubs, many are happy to enjoy their cars in their own way.

JH
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mgtommm

USA
505 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2015 :  17:19:26  Show Profile
Agreed, Jeremy! And I guess K3's have a 1,000% survival rate.

Perhaps safe to say there are 1,000 J2's accounted for, and at 50%, that's, ummm, let's see, 500 drivers. Seems like a lot to me but it would be good to hear from owners.

Tommm
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Oz34

United Kingdom
2543 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2015 :  17:51:51  Show Profile
I used to know a guy near Bognor in the late '60s/early '70s who had a green swept wing J2. He widened the french windows and the car lived in the lounge where, during the "winter of discontent", they would read by the light of the headlamps and then recharge the battery when the power came on!

Dave
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MaGic_GV

United Kingdom
868 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2015 :  18:12:15  Show Profile
Tom, the number of cars running is a bit more difficult! As Jeremy says, some of those listed may be little more than chassis, while others may be already hibernating for the winter...



Regards,
Graham
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greg

United Kingdom
833 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2015 :  19:46:08  Show Profile
When I bought my j2 it turned up on a trailor and silverstone as a restoration project some of you will remember it. I approached the man selling it but he wouldn't speak to me as I was only 19 years old he must of thought I'd never buy it! So I got my dad he went on to buy it for me.
I noticed it had a ford engine I turned my nose up at it! At that point my dad was paying out the money.
The moral of the story if it wasn't for the ford engines then the survival rate would only be 25% so whoever idea it was was a hero! As lots would of been scrapped probably mine too
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Christian Cottes

France
114 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2015 :  20:11:01  Show Profile
To me, if I may, there are two kinds of prewar cars enthusiasts : museums and drivers (investers being kept out of this scope).

Then, what is a surviving car ?

What a fascinating and exhilariting experience it is to drive in 2015 a car which has not been stopped for more than a few months in decades.

When I bought J2195 in 2003, it had its original chassis, body tub, engine, gearbox and many other original fittings, no rust at all and a full record of maintenance, repairs, MOT certificates, photos of events or daily drives, and invoices, the earlier being from 1958 : a C&P set supplied by Toulmin Motors for £ 8.10 (no VAT in those happy times !).

Now, J2195 average yearly mileage is around 1200. This is what I would tend to call a surviving driver's car.

Cheers, may we long drive our MG's and may we, when comes the time, find a driver to keep them on the road.

Christian

PS : back to topic : how many surviving J2's ?
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MG Maverick

United Kingdom
1045 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2015 :  20:04:53  Show Profile
How many other J2s are still around but unknown ? It would appear that a few people knew of Michael Bird, that he was in Cyprus with J2353...yet none of J4129 !! Without the research J4129 would have been lost forever, so there must be others unaccounted for .

Chris ( J2353 ) & ( J4129 )

Brighton, East Sussex & Paphos, Cyprus.
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Simon Johnston

United Kingdom
6144 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2015 :  22:10:14  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by MG Maverick

How many other J2s are still around but unknown ?


To paraphrase that nice Mr. Rumsfeld, the answer to that would be the unknown unknowns

Simon J
J3437
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JMH

United Kingdom
911 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2015 :  22:47:30  Show Profile
Going by the last few years - a fair number. Some as complete runners! Anyone seen the "Ambleside J3"?

JH
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tholden

United Kingdom
1638 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2015 :  22:51:17  Show Profile
About as many people who have seen the Loch Ness monster Jeremy !

TH
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Ian Bowers

United Kingdom
942 Posts

Posted - 03/12/2015 :  09:19:31  Show Profile
Tell me more about the 'Ambleside J3', we are there frequently and know a good number of the local and long established barn owners!

Ian Bowers
OD 6791
J3 3772

Edited by - Ian Bowers on 03/12/2015 09:20:17
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JMH

United Kingdom
911 Posts

Posted - 04/12/2015 :  20:25:15  Show Profile
Ian,
Terry's comment is spot on. For many years (decades), there have been persistent rumours of a J3 seen out & about the Ambleside area in the 60s/early 70s. I think dad was first told of "a car" when he was with the J2 in Barrow 63-68. Nobody has found one there, or come forward as the owner identifying the car, so many live in hope of finding it.......Good Luck.

JH
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Ian Bowers

United Kingdom
942 Posts

Posted - 05/12/2015 :  07:45:55  Show Profile
We will be there in a couple of week's time, I will put out feelers.

Don't hold your breath though, things move alarming slow in this community.

Ian Bowers
OD 6791
J3 3772
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Ian Bowers

United Kingdom
942 Posts

Posted - 07/12/2015 :  10:04:55  Show Profile
This is very embarrassing, but ... !

Someone kindly sent me copies of two documents relating to the 'Ambleside J3', which I appear to have irreversibly deleted in my excitement.

Please can you accept my apologies, and re-send.

Ian Bowers
OD 6791
J3 3772
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