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JMH
United Kingdom
923 Posts |
Posted - 01/12/2015 : 16:58:29
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The survival rate of KNs is better. Strange, but true (let's not go there...). 50% of the J2 survivors as "runners" is probably not that far off, but just because a car's a runner doesn't mean the owner is "active" within the MGCC or other Car Clubs, many are happy to enjoy their cars in their own way.
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mgtommm
USA
509 Posts |
Posted - 01/12/2015 : 17:19:26
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Agreed, Jeremy! And I guess K3's have a 1,000% survival rate.
Perhaps safe to say there are 1,000 J2's accounted for, and at 50%, that's, ummm, let's see, 500 drivers. Seems like a lot to me but it would be good to hear from owners.
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Oz34
United Kingdom
2624 Posts |
Posted - 01/12/2015 : 17:51:51
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I used to know a guy near Bognor in the late '60s/early '70s who had a green swept wing J2. He widened the french windows and the car lived in the lounge where, during the "winter of discontent", they would read by the light of the headlamps and then recharge the battery when the power came on!
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MaGic_GV
United Kingdom
868 Posts |
Posted - 01/12/2015 : 18:12:15
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Tom, the number of cars running is a bit more difficult! As Jeremy says, some of those listed may be little more than chassis, while others may be already hibernating for the winter...
Regards, Graham
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greg
United Kingdom
846 Posts |
Posted - 01/12/2015 : 19:46:08
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When I bought my j2 it turned up on a trailor and silverstone as a restoration project some of you will remember it. I approached the man selling it but he wouldn't speak to me as I was only 19 years old he must of thought I'd never buy it! So I got my dad he went on to buy it for me. I noticed it had a ford engine I turned my nose up at it! At that point my dad was paying out the money. The moral of the story if it wasn't for the ford engines then the survival rate would only be 25% so whoever idea it was was a hero! As lots would of been scrapped probably mine too |
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Christian Cottes
France
114 Posts |
Posted - 01/12/2015 : 20:11:01
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To me, if I may, there are two kinds of prewar cars enthusiasts : museums and drivers (investers being kept out of this scope).
Then, what is a surviving car ?
What a fascinating and exhilariting experience it is to drive in 2015 a car which has not been stopped for more than a few months in decades.
When I bought J2195 in 2003, it had its original chassis, body tub, engine, gearbox and many other original fittings, no rust at all and a full record of maintenance, repairs, MOT certificates, photos of events or daily drives, and invoices, the earlier being from 1958 : a C&P set supplied by Toulmin Motors for £ 8.10 (no VAT in those happy times !).
Now, J2195 average yearly mileage is around 1200. This is what I would tend to call a surviving driver's car.
Cheers, may we long drive our MG's and may we, when comes the time, find a driver to keep them on the road.
Christian
PS : back to topic : how many surviving J2's ? |
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MG Maverick
United Kingdom
1045 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2015 : 20:04:53
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How many other J2s are still around but unknown ? It would appear that a few people knew of Michael Bird, that he was in Cyprus with J2353...yet none of J4129 !! Without the research J4129 would have been lost forever, so there must be others unaccounted for .
Chris ( J2353 ) & ( J4129 )
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
6305 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2015 : 22:10:14
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quote: Originally posted by MG Maverick
How many other J2s are still around but unknown ?
To paraphrase that nice Mr. Rumsfeld, the answer to that would be the unknown unknowns
Simon J J3437 |
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JMH
United Kingdom
923 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2015 : 22:47:30
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Going by the last few years - a fair number. Some as complete runners! Anyone seen the "Ambleside J3"?
JH
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tholden
United Kingdom
1649 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2015 : 22:51:17
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About as many people who have seen the Loch Ness monster Jeremy !
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Ian Bowers
United Kingdom
952 Posts |
Posted - 03/12/2015 : 09:19:31
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Tell me more about the 'Ambleside J3', we are there frequently and know a good number of the local and long established barn owners!
Ian Bowers OD 6791 J3 3772 |
Edited by - Ian Bowers on 03/12/2015 09:20:17 |
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JMH
United Kingdom
923 Posts |
Posted - 04/12/2015 : 20:25:15
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Ian, Terry's comment is spot on. For many years (decades), there have been persistent rumours of a J3 seen out & about the Ambleside area in the 60s/early 70s. I think dad was first told of "a car" when he was with the J2 in Barrow 63-68. Nobody has found one there, or come forward as the owner identifying the car, so many live in hope of finding it.......Good Luck.
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Ian Bowers
United Kingdom
952 Posts |
Posted - 05/12/2015 : 07:45:55
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We will be there in a couple of week's time, I will put out feelers.
Don't hold your breath though, things move alarming slow in this community.
Ian Bowers OD 6791 J3 3772 |
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Ian Bowers
United Kingdom
952 Posts |
Posted - 07/12/2015 : 10:04:55
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This is very embarrassing, but ... !
Someone kindly sent me copies of two documents relating to the 'Ambleside J3', which I appear to have irreversibly deleted in my excitement.
Please can you accept my apologies, and re-send.
Ian Bowers OD 6791 J3 3772 |
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