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Terry Hartley
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19/12/2017 : 16:51:41
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Are these your 'go-faster' holes? ![](images/icon_smile_wink.gif) |
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Keith Durston
United Kingdom
713 Posts |
Posted - 19/12/2017 : 22:26:45
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Tony, The original body timbers from 2112 do not have these holes on either side. I don't think that 2451 did either but I scrapped the remains of the scuttle many years ago so I may be wrong but I don't think so. Keith |
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tonym
United Kingdom
655 Posts |
Posted - 20/12/2017 : 14:30:45
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Yes, Terry It reduces wind resistance when travelling with no bonnet. Downside is that it creates an inconvenient draught up ones shorts, at speed |
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Cooperman
United Kingdom
765 Posts |
Posted - 20/12/2017 : 20:44:41
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Does it also produce a strange whistling sound?
John Cooper M 628 |
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sam christie
United Kingdom
3115 Posts |
Posted - 20/12/2017 : 23:13:25
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I believe the holes related to the way the bodies were clamped three at a time in a frame for transport. This is another reason by the way why I believe original bodies were as near as possible exactly the same. Notice there is no provision to adjust for different dimensions.
![](http://www.triple-mregister.org/forums/uploads/sam christie/20171220225834_M Body Delivery Side View Copy JPEG.jpg)
The front of each body rests on two felt padded cross bars bolted to the frame . Butterfly nuts are used extensively.
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Sam |
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sam christie
United Kingdom
3115 Posts |
Posted - 21/12/2017 : 09:22:53
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Here is a close view showing a crate with the bodies end on. These include the escutcheons on the boot lids.
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Sam |
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tonym
United Kingdom
655 Posts |
Posted - 21/12/2017 : 15:01:30
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Sam Interesting your peg theory - however all you pics seem to relate to the rear of the body tub. My holes are at the front on the bulkhead. It's a shame that there are no pics of the inside of the tubs whilst they were in the transport frames. What is the relevance of the pic of the rear of EO4917? Interestingly we used these holes as internal body supports when we removed the body a few years ago.
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John The whistling noise is usually me anxiously looking for a suitable spot to stop to have a pee !! Old age and all that. |
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sam christie
United Kingdom
3115 Posts |
Posted - 21/12/2017 : 20:42:31
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What is the relevance of the pic of the rear of EO4917?
None really. Look on it as a Christmas bonus at no extra charge although it is really just me rambling - you know old age and all that.
Sam |
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tonym
United Kingdom
655 Posts |
Posted - 22/12/2017 : 14:45:54
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Sam Do not fear about being a rambler. You are in the company of several hundred others on this site !!
Happy Christmas
Tony |
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sam christie
United Kingdom
3115 Posts |
Posted - 22/12/2017 : 20:49:46
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Thanks Tony.
To the right of your timber Tony are the old timbers from my car (2M 1802) which have an identical hole on one side and none on the other. It looks like my theory has room for improvement.
![](http://www.triple-mregister.org/forums/uploads/sam christie/20171222204133_Holes in MXtype Bodies JPEG.jpg)
A friend tells me late M-type timbers he has do not have a hole in the same place.
Happy Christmas
Sam |
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tonym
United Kingdom
655 Posts |
Posted - 23/12/2017 : 15:00:50
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Interesting - so I am not alone.
Does your hole appear to be machine made, as mine or was it produced by some handy previous owner with a brace and bit ? I think my nearside hole is probably in this category.
Looking at old pics I realise that the hole was present in my original body work [1st pic] and that there was another in the kit of body bits that I got in 1977 [2nd pic] - this kit is where the nearside hole comes from. So the 1st is original to the running wreck of 3338 that I was using at that time - but I have no idea from which car, or even cars, the body kit came from.
So the search goes on - any more holes out there ??
The double entendre police will have a field day !
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PreWarMG
Australia
437 Posts |
Posted - 04/01/2018 : 21:25:12
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Thanks to those forum members who have sent drawings and sketches - keep them coming.
The drawings have been started & it will certainly be a long task.
Cheers
Tony
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Brian Kelly
USA
526 Posts |
Posted - 04/01/2018 : 23:16:23
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[quote]Originally posted by tonym
"Interesting - so I am not alone.
So the search goes on - any more holes out there ??
In 1967 four lads from Liverpool said that there were four thousand holes in Blackburn, Lancashire and though the holes were rather small they had to count them all.
I just thought that I'd turn you on to that !!!! ![](images/icon_smile_shock.gif)
Brian.
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sam christie
United Kingdom
3115 Posts |
Posted - 05/01/2018 : 11:02:31
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The hole appears to be machine made but stuffed with a piece of hessian at some stage.
Sam |
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PreWarMG
Australia
437 Posts |
Posted - 28/02/2018 : 05:14:14
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I have made some progress on the M-Type ash frame dimensioned drawings, however I do need some better detail.
I have based most of what has been drawn to date on the article by Barrie Dean called "M-Type Bodywork", however I only have Part II of the story. When you use a lot of his dimensions in a 3D drawing they just don't fit, as sometimes the dimension points are a bit vague.
I am keen to complete this to produce dimensioned components, but need more accurate data to proceed further. Can anyone assist ?.
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