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Brian Kelly
USA
526 Posts |
 Posted - 21/01/2018 : 21:43:49
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Query.
On Page 17. of Andrea Green's "MGs On Patrol" there is a photo (as shown below) of ATF 258 described as a PB. PB 0704, . However, MMM Register (2009) lists PB 0704 with ATF 253.
The radiator in the photo looks to be slanting , as L-Type?
I read recently in a Bulletin or yearbook of this car in Australia, the owner had written an article about the PB being Ex police. Now I can't find the article. However, it sounds conflicting to me.
Any comments>
Brian. Confused in Kansas.
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DickMorbey
United Kingdom
3677 Posts |
Posted - 21/01/2018 : 22:08:48
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Greetings Brian.
According to the current Register records ATF 258 is PB0566 and was owned at the outset by Lancs Police. It has Register Number 2458.
From then on the trail goes cold until 1974 when it was reported to be in Victoria, Australia. Perhaps PB Registrar Graham Arrondelle or one of our Australian friends can add more?
No pics on file, alas!
ATF 253 is PB0704 and was likewise registered from new by the Lancs Police. It has an early Register Number (194) and lives in Gloucestershire. If the records are reliable the present owner has had it since 1997.
PS
I suppose it would not be difficult for the last digit 3 to be confused with an 8 and vice versa?
PPS
Hang on! Have just stumbled upon a picture of PB0566 taken at the Australian Beechwood Rally of October 2005
Dick Morbey
PA-PB 0743
Frieth, Oxon, UK
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Colin McLachlan
United Kingdom
991 Posts |
Posted - 22/01/2018 : 14:35:58
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The radiator is strange, but other things point to a P Type, such as trafficators, windscreen fittings and shape, and even the shape of the body, just discernible under the lady's skirt.
Colin
Markinch, Fife.
PA 0613
MG3242
Register No. 2591 |
Edited by - Colin McLachlan on 22/01/2018 14:36:59 |
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KevinA
New Zealand
670 Posts |
Posted - 22/01/2018 : 19:38:15
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"even the shape of the body, just discernible under the lady's skirt"
This sounds like pretty racey stuff for a Triple M forum! |
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Andrew Fock
Australia
374 Posts |
Posted - 22/01/2018 : 20:28:50
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Circa 2009 at the MGCC national meeting in Geelong.
The car remains in this condition.
regards,
Andrew
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DickMorbey
United Kingdom
3677 Posts |
Posted - 22/01/2018 : 22:04:28
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Thanks Andrew
I've taken the liberty of adding these pics to the Register database.
Do we know when Andrew B acquired this car - I'm assuming he is still the owner?
Dick Morbey
PA-PB 0743
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Andrew Fock
Australia
374 Posts |
Posted - 23/01/2018 : 06:40:24
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Not sure when he bought it but I will ask. Yes, he still has it as far as I know.
Andrew
NA 0279
PA 1294 |
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Colin McLachlan
United Kingdom
991 Posts |
Posted - 23/01/2018 : 09:19:38
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Kevin, I have an eye for a pretty leg  .
Looks like this car goes with the current "oily rag" fashion, and I rather like it. Is that a special "least restored" trophy I see sitting on the windscreen?
We still have not explained the apparent slope of the radiator in the original picture.
Colin
Markinch, Fife.
PA 0613
MG3242
Register No. 2591 |
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Mike the M
United Kingdom
481 Posts |
Posted - 23/01/2018 : 11:21:41
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The "TF" registration details are available in Preston!
Will email them!
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Oz34
United Kingdom
2538 Posts |
Posted - 23/01/2018 : 13:07:21
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Colin, as far as the rad is concerned, it certainly looks like an F/L one doesn't it. Can anyone advise if it is possible to fit one to a P? Time was when people would fit what was available as witness my PA having a slatted PB rad when I bought her.
Dave |
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Nick Feakes
USA
3372 Posts |
Posted - 23/01/2018 : 15:41:30
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Is it possible that the shell was not properly in place at the bottom?
Nick |
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Rainier
Netherlands
160 Posts |
Posted - 23/01/2018 : 16:20:02
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The radiator cap doesn't seem to be at an angle. And I think the front valance doesn't leave enough room to have it tilted at such an angle. That should rule out the tilted shell...
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Nick Feakes
USA
3372 Posts |
Posted - 23/01/2018 : 17:57:43
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Rainier
You may be right. The radiator cap would not slope with the shell but it doesn't look as if it is at an angle to the shell. I would imagine it would be a great deal of work to instal a 'sloping' radiator and shell from a different model since the bottom location would be very hard to move, the valance would need to be altered and then there are the bonnet sides. Moving the top of the radiator rearward wouldn't be easy either for similar reasons. But the shell does look to be at an angle to the headlamps. Maybe the radiator and bonnet were grafted on after an accident? A bit of a mystery.
Nick
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Brian Kelly
USA
526 Posts |
Posted - 23/01/2018 : 19:17:16
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Hi Andrew,
Thanks for posting photos. The present owner wrote an article recently
and it was published in a MMM publication. I only read it last week and for the life of me I can't find it again. It's on our forum somewhere.
Could you ask the owner where we could find it?
Cheers.
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Oz34
United Kingdom
2538 Posts |
Posted - 23/01/2018 : 21:05:23
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Nick, the trailing edge of the F/L shell is pretty much vertical like the J/P etc.
Dave |
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PeterL
United Kingdom
1722 Posts |
Posted - 23/01/2018 : 22:15:23
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I think the radiators are interchangeable. Only the front slopes. Might be tight putting the F/L shell on a J/P but only at the bottom, methinks.
Cheers
P |
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