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Oz34

United Kingdom
2542 Posts

Posted - 05/04/2019 :  19:44:15  Show Profile
I see in the cars for sale that Bonhams are to auction a K1 Saloon in need of renovation, with an estimate of £15000 to £20000. Let's hope the world stock of "K3s" isn't about to increase! Hopefully the K2 they are also offering is sufficiently rare to escape a similar fate? Or perhaps not?

Dave

wiggy963

United Kingdom
69 Posts

Posted - 06/04/2019 :  09:37:09  Show Profile
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George Eagle

United Kingdom
3240 Posts

Posted - 06/04/2019 :  12:07:13  Show Profile
Same sentiments from me.

I am aware of one K2 - one of only 20 built - which was changed to k3 style.

George
Registrar F/L/N types.
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MIKEB

United Kingdom
76 Posts

Posted - 07/04/2019 :  15:55:34  Show Profile
I see the K2 was sold by Bonhams today for £103,500 inc. premium.
Mike
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Phil Standish

United Kingdom
102 Posts

Posted - 07/04/2019 :  16:43:46  Show Profile
K1 saloon sold for £24150 including premium
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Christian H

Germany
58 Posts

Posted - 07/04/2019 :  20:00:16  Show Profile
Hopefully both the K1 & K2 will remain what they are - rather than being butchered into K3 look-a-likes - or more precisely: vandalised into K3 look-a-likes.

Christian Hoeptner
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Simon Johnston

United Kingdom
6136 Posts

Posted - 07/04/2019 :  20:31:21  Show Profile
The solution to preventing new owners doing what they want with their cars rather than what others might want is simple - buy them yourself

Simon J
J3437
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Onno

Netherlands
1045 Posts

Posted - 07/04/2019 :  20:53:15  Show Profile
Simon I would have loved to.
Just can’t afford to.
So for us less fortunate could the new owner please keep it a saloon so we can enjoy the sight

Onno "D" Könemann
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DickMorbey

United Kingdom
3677 Posts

Posted - 07/04/2019 :  21:09:36  Show Profile
A few pics of the two cars





















Dick Morbey
PA-PB 0743
Frieth, Oxon, UK
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Simon Johnston

United Kingdom
6136 Posts

Posted - 07/04/2019 :  21:19:33  Show Profile
Ah, so you're the one planning a K3 lookalike, Dick?

Simon J
J3437
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JCB

United Kingdom
384 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2019 :  09:32:01  Show Profile
Dear Forum:

N630 Dumbiron

Can somebody please explain the process of the dumbiron change?
Accident damage but why K number to N number.
Is there documentation at factory record level?
There must be more to the story.
All the best.

John Bakewell
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George Eagle

United Kingdom
3240 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2019 :  10:50:43  Show Profile
In reply to John's query, NA0630 was a two seat N type which does not appear to have survived. It is possible that the saloon was involved in an accident and the damaged knuckle replaced with that from NA0630 which would have been stamped N 0630. I am not sure if there is a difference between K and N knuckles.

I feel the selling price achieved for the K2 is a fair reflection of both it's rarity and the current market which has "softened" a little of late, fairly priced cars still sell; for example the recent asking price for a K type rebuilt in the style of a K3 is in my opinion too high

The K saloon looks to be very original and good value. As we all hope it will be rebuilt as a saloon. I wonder how many pillarless saloons survive?

George
Registrar F/L/N types.

Edited by - George Eagle on 08/04/2019 10:57:12
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Colin McLachlan

United Kingdom
991 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2019 :  11:42:45  Show Profile
Wow, I know these cars, which were owned for many years by my friend Mike Waggot. I have been out of touch with Mike for several years, but he was rebuilding a the K1 saloon for a long time. I can only assume that he has given up on it, although I thought he had done much work on the bodywork. I'm sad to see that lovely, mostly original, K2 leave Scotland, but it hasn't been seen out and about for years. Here are some photos from nearly 30 years ago.














Colin

Crail, Fife.
PA 0613
MG3242
Register No. 2591
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JCB

United Kingdom
384 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2019 :  11:58:37  Show Profile
Dick and Colin and Forum:

Thank-you Dick for your explanation .
Colin very nice period photographs.
If not already in car file.Please be sure they are uploaded to car file.

Colin; as you have first hand knowledge of the car.
Can you explain the accident /knuckle replacement part of the story?
Is the car otherwise original K? except for the knuckle.?
How is this car to be described please?
Thank-you again.

John Bakewell
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Colin McLachlan

United Kingdom
991 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2019 :  10:49:03  Show Profile
I've just learned that these cars were being sold by Mike's estate, so sadly he is no longer with us. I've called on his house a couple of times in the last few years, but there was never anyone in. Mike was a lovely, gentle man, and had owned these cars for many years before I met him in the early 90's.

I'm afraid I can't shed any light on the knuckle replacement - that was news to me. Mike always referred to it as a K1 saloon. Here's a photo he sent me some years ago of the engine going back into it after a rebuild.




As you can just see, the body was off at that time.

Here's my CSI attempt at "enhancing" the front chassis leg, but I can't see the join (as Eric might say to Ernie).




And what the hell is that attached to the brake drum?

Edit: Now having looked at the Bonham photos, I'm not sure if that's the K1 or the K2 getting the engine fitted. I see that Nick (presumably) has already added my photos.

Colin

Crail, Fife.
PA 0613
MG3242
Register No. 2591

Edited by - Colin McLachlan on 09/04/2019 11:01:29
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mgmog

United Kingdom
467 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2019 :  11:43:15  Show Profile
Just the wing stay hanging over, you can see other one at the rear.

Rich Stott
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