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Fred Boothby
United Kingdom
364 Posts |
 Posted - 18/11/2019 : 14:24:06
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| Well, licence renewal form has now arrived from the MSA or whatever they have rebranded themselves. Last years licence cost me £98 . For renewal ( same grade of licence ) to allow me to compete in our MMM races it is now £155 . Obviously the executives at MSA have never heard of the parable of the straw that broke the camels back - I am out of it ! Racing J2 for sale , chaps ! |
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tholden
United Kingdom
1638 Posts |
Posted - 18/11/2019 : 17:17:29
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Hi Fred
No please don't give up. We all love to see you and your car in action. I will kick off with a contribution of £10 if 5 other people on here will do the same thing we can all continue to have the pleasure of seeing you and your mighty little J out again next year.
Come on chaps...
Terry
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JDoe
United Kingdom
85 Posts |
Posted - 18/11/2019 : 17:18:26
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Fred.
Is that for a Nat A or B licence? (my mail is still somewhere with BFPO)
At Donington, I asked myself why I was paying £200+ to get lapped and then be listed as a 'non-qualifying finisher".
If I have to pay £155 for a licence plus £80 for a medical plus increased membership fees + £200 entry fee plus petrol/food/B&B etc, I may have to call it a day as well. |
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Fred Boothby
United Kingdom
364 Posts |
Posted - 18/11/2019 : 17:30:37
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| Oh dear , oh dear ! I know I am an old whining pensioner , but I never thought the MMM fraternity would have a whip-round to help me out . Many , many thanks for the offer Terry - I haven't had 'sponsorship' for many a year , and I would feel awful in accepting your offer. Maybe I could seek assistance from Age Concern or Help The Aged ! Andrew , to answer your question , next year there is no such thing as National A and National B , just 'National' and it is £155 . But for that you do get additional perks - such as discounts from Halfords and discounts for 'experience'days at Castle Combe and Knockhill circuits ! |
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Onno
Netherlands
1045 Posts |
Posted - 18/11/2019 : 18:08:44
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Racing in the UK is still cheap then ;)
Here in Holland I pay £150,- (equivalent in euro’s off course) for the cheapest possible licence that allows me to race with the MGCC or VSCC.
That was the 2019 price mind you.
And if brexit does happen chances are that instead of being allowed to race on a EU license I need a full international costing £225,- (Excluding additional exam fee’s)
And after that the travel expenses start since there is no suitable racing nearby.
But Fred since I enjoyed racing you so very much I’d love to pay for your full license for 2020 and support the elderly.
Just one condition, a small livery change and I’ll even supply the paint for that ;)
Onno "D" Könemann |
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Fred Boothby
United Kingdom
364 Posts |
Posted - 18/11/2019 : 18:37:35
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| Onno, thanks for your reply and your kind offer . However I feel that Dutch Racing Orange would not be compatable with my red racing overalls - or my blue eyes ! I do , however, look forward to seeing you at the UK circuits where no doubt I will be No 1 on the barbeque ! |
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Mikeenty
United Kingdom
198 Posts |
Posted - 19/11/2019 : 08:27:15
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Hi Ono, do you not have available an international historic licence for a lesser fee?
Mike. |
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Onno
Netherlands
1045 Posts |
Posted - 19/11/2019 : 11:45:47
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Hi Mike,
Sadly not.
No focus on historic or any amateur racing abroad.
Still happy that there is a posibility to race and will try to enjoy it as long and as much as I can.
Onno "D" Könemann |
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Cooperman
United Kingdom
760 Posts |
Posted - 19/11/2019 : 12:04:55
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And don't forget that your 'riding mechanic' will need a licence next year as well 
The next thing will be that all spectators will need a licence as well, oh my Gawd I've put that idea in their heads so sorry.
John Cooper M 628 |
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Dolts
United Kingdom
1129 Posts |
Posted - 19/11/2019 : 15:44:20
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I hope this increase which I also am disappointed at, does not deter others.
It’s an expensive game. The price of many things have gone up!
There is a really exciting race plan being put together for us, with generous sponsorship income to keep the cost of race weekends down and we hope we have super grids for 2020.
Fred we want you on the grid. I hope the silly MSA price increase isn’t the reason you hang your boots up.
Mark Dolton
www.triple-mracing.com
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Dolts
United Kingdom
1129 Posts |
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Onno
Netherlands
1045 Posts |
Posted - 19/11/2019 : 18:47:05
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And on a more serious note from me as a continental.
There is no country in the world that is as supportive and accommodating for all racing and certainly pre war as the UK.
Racing might not be cheap but at least in the UK it is possible.
That is something to support and cherish and the best way to is either go racing or come and spectate.
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Fred Boothby
United Kingdom
364 Posts |
Posted - 19/11/2019 : 18:50:06
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| No, Mark , the 'offers' do not help me. A discount off 'experience days' at Knockhill and Castle Combe circuits, and discounts at Avis Car Rental , various car insurance companies , offers of 'advanced driving' courses , and a free vision test at Specsavers do not make up for the tremendous hike in the licence fee. Some may say that it is just a small part of the overall cost of the racing for the year , but in my initial post I mentioned the straw that broke the camels back , and I stick with that. Some friends of mine that are totally unconnected with motor racing express surprise that we even have to pay entry fees so that we can entertain the public , and boy, have they gone up in recent years. So for me at least it is economically unviable. But to reply to Andrew Harrington - don't give up , please . Once you have retired from messing about in boats , do more events each year to justify the cost of the licence . Stick with it , please . You are young ! |
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Dolts
United Kingdom
1129 Posts |
Posted - 19/11/2019 : 19:17:21
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I agree Fred, my comment was a little tongue in cheek. I do understand your position. But I genuinely hope you might still join us.
Only benefits I can see are the waiver of new starters medical and under 60s only needing eye tests. Possibly 10% off GPR racewear. Clearly not much help to the more established.
Looks like their target is grass roots & new starters. Another organisation that had to do something to survive, this is their path.
Not sure about this year, but MGCC hasn’t really changed it’s entry fee for us in 3yrs. Fingers crossed.
Mark Dolton
www.triple-mracing.com
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Mikeenty
United Kingdom
198 Posts |
Posted - 19/11/2019 : 22:36:20
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The Motorsport website is not easy to follow.
I am happy to be corrected, but I think all you need to compete in MGCC or other club races is a Race inter club. I have tried to log in to find out the renewal cost, but the page has been taken down.
Not much help I’m afraid.
Mike.
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Mikeenty
United Kingdom
198 Posts |
Posted - 20/11/2019 : 10:28:25
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At last I have some information for you.
The licence for club racing is indeed the inter club licence. For the under 60s no need for a medical, free eye test at spec savers.
See you st the circuits?
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