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Hawkes
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 02/12/2022 : 13:51:10
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My brother in Melbourne has recently bought J2828 in Australia. He is wanting some history and so far believes it was exported to NZ in 1945 after the war and since then crossed to Australia. It has just had a full rebuild with previous owner.
There is supposed to be a reference to it in an article in Safety Fast in 3/85. Would anyone have a copy to scan the relevant bit?
I wonder if there is any record of UK history before it emigrated?
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Gerhard Maier
Germany
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Posted - 02/12/2022 : 15:36:03
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Hi Simon,
I had a look into the for-sale-advertisements of the pre war SPORTS CAR MAGAZINES, where often the chassis numbers are mentioned.
But unfortunately the No. J2828 does not appear.
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JohnE
United Kingdom
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Hawkes
United Kingdom
65 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2022 : 19:56:43
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Thanks Gerhard for looking and John too.
Does the MG CC have a library of back copies of Safety Fast with access available for research? |
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KevinA
New Zealand
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Andrew Fock
Australia
382 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2022 : 22:04:43
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If Nick is interested in joining us on runs and events he would be most welcome. Andrew
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Originally posted by Hawkes
My brother in Melbourne has recently bought J2828 in Australia. He is wanting some history and so far believes it was exported to NZ in 1945 after the war and since then crossed to Australia. It has just had a full rebuild with previous owner.
There is supposed to be a reference to it in an article in Safety Fast in 3/85. Would anyone have a copy to scan the relevant bit?
I wonder if there is any record of UK history before it emigrated?
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KevinA
New Zealand
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John James
United Kingdom
965 Posts |
Posted - 03/12/2022 : 07:56:54
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J2828 was supplied from new by Frank Scott Ltd., Newcastle-upon-Tyne on 3rd February 1933 to B.St.M.F.Webb-Ware.
There was a photo of the car in Safety Fast, April 1985. It is a very poor photo and you can't read the registration number. It is pictured alongside two other cars (a TF1500 and a BGT) owned by Charlie Fulton of South Island, New Zealand. In the POST BOX (Letters) section, Charlie Fulton said that he had just purchased the car and it needed a full rebuild. He was asking some very basic questions e.g. "Where is the battery supposed to be". which he hoped would be answered by someone who would be prepared to correspond with him. |
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Hawkes
United Kingdom
65 Posts |
Posted - 03/12/2022 : 09:31:12
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| Great stuff, thanks Kevin, John and Andrew. Nick will be delighted to get all this info. It is his third J2 but about 50 years gap after the first two! It poured with rain on the day he had to take it for its roadworthy inspection and apparently it brought back lots of memories of driving in Devon in our youth. Come to sunny Devon, where it rains six days out of seven .... |
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/12/2022 : 11:43:48
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It would be well worth getting a copy of the factory file for the car if not already obtained. It’s available at modest cost from the MG Car Club - contact Ineke Sherman (ineke@mgcc.co.uk
Simon J
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NZ_monty
New Zealand
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Hawkes
United Kingdom
65 Posts |
Posted - 07/12/2022 : 08:25:32
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| Thanks Daniel what a great resource that is. |
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Nick Caudwell
Australia
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Posted - 10/01/2023 : 03:48:49
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Thanks everyone very much for your input, it’s very much appreciated.
I took your advice and purchased the factory file and that confirms that it was indeed initially sold to Mr B. St. M. F. Webb-Ware of Larkspur Terrace, Newcastle Upon Tyne via dealer Frank Scott Ltd
Central Garage , Carliol Square, Newcastle Upon Tyne. It left the factory as a Green 2 seater.
There’s a couple of letters which deals with some issues it had with sticky valves , but no mention of it’s registration number which would be nice to trace if possible.
I guess it’s not that important really, but I’d like to get as many of the facts as possible as what seems to happen is someone’s thought along the way gets recorded as fact. There’s quite a bit listed on the NZ Triple M site regarding this car that is not correct. I have all the NZ registration papers and it would appear that it arrived in NZ in 1945 or 6 (hard to make out) and the first owner was Douglas McFarlane Harre, Lincoln Road, Henderson. Harry Walker (which the NZ info says imported it) was actually the 14th owner of it in NZ (in the 70's) and I suspect may have imported a different J2 that they are mixing it up with. It was also not a swept wing model as was built long before they were introduced.
The NZ site list the original Registration as MG2828 which I feel is quite unlikely. I used to own J2, registration MG2099, back in the UK in the late 60’s and that was a London Police car originally. I could be wrong but I think MG registrations may well be from the London area and not Newcastle, plus very unlikely that the registration would match the Chassis number.
I now have a detailed list of everything since it shipped to NZ to the current date, but nothing from its first owner till 1945 or 1946 when it shipped over.
Would anyone know if it’s at all possible to trace it’s original Registration number or is that altogether in the too hard basket now.
Cheers,
Nick Caudwell
J2828
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