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Chris Bucknell
Australia
107 Posts |
 Posted - 01/01/2011 : 05:27:20
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Hi All,
Thought I might kick off the year's activities with a bit of a mystery object or two. Please see photos attached.
Thoughts?
Heres to a MMM 2011,
Chris |
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JMH
United Kingdom
911 Posts |
Posted - 01/01/2011 : 17:01:50
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Chris,
The 2nd photo is of a Zoller Blower reduction gear casing. It would have fitted on the front of the blower with shaft running back on a parallel axis to the nose of the crank.
I reckon the first photo is of the casing, but you're being sneaky showing it from underneath!
Happy New Year,
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Chris Bucknell
Australia
107 Posts |
Posted - 01/01/2011 : 21:45:08
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Thanks Jeremy,
I will take a photo of other side when next I am up at Dad's but it was obviously too easy anyway. I did not show the manifolds either as that would have been a dead give-away.
The thing is I am not familiar with anything except Q and R Zollers and this one is a bit different.
So my questions are what MG cars were these drives fitted to? Obviously this was the one for the underbonnet fitment. I know P Types. Is this what they ran on the twin cam R's?
Next question is with regards to the casing. The casing is a little bigger than an R casing and hence probably for a much bigger engine as the ones fitted to P's I think were smaller than the R's (don't know for sure). Also the casing has none of the "branding" that the R-TYpe/Q-Type ones did ie the MG logo and the words Zoller Special. It is however octagonal on shape. So what car do we think this was off? The inlet and outlet ports are at 90 degrees to each other.
Will update with other photo when next have a chance.
Regards,
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JMH
United Kingdom
911 Posts |
Posted - 02/01/2011 : 13:06:34
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Chris, I think I know exactly what it came off & did not expect to see "branding" on it. I have sent you an e-mail.
JH |
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Wiessmann
Germany
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Posted - 03/01/2011 : 17:22:06
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Chris,
the picture shows a brother of your Zoller, put together in a more "upright" position.
This type of blower was fitted to EX.135 in 1938. It was crankshaft-driven, the gear casing heading to the front of the car. A long drive shaft passed behind the carburettor that was mounted to the double inlet.
All the best for 2011
Karl
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Ron Grant
United Kingdom
160 Posts |
Posted - 06/01/2011 : 11:25:09
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Gents,
I have the patten equipment for both the twin carb Zoller blower cases and the end plates if you need a few casting!!
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David Allison
United Kingdom
665 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2011 : 17:00:27
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Chris
Is picture 1 a container for humble pie?
Or perhaps a container for the ashes of Australian Cricket?
Sorry couldnt resist.
Is it an oil cooler?
Intercooler?
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Chris Bucknell
Australia
107 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2011 : 05:57:36
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o Karl,
Thanks for showing the brother blower (Does that mean we are related?). Is it going?
To Ron,
Where did the the casting templates come from? Which car was the blower off?
To David,
I will not even honour that comment with a reply, although I have to say I am not a sore looser and we deserved to be beaten. But we will be back.
Regards,
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Ron Grant
United Kingdom
160 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2011 : 09:24:00
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Chris,
We borrowed an original case and then made pattens from that, it was for a Zoller blown Aston, the blower being mounted very high up on the side of the rocker cover. In fact, the rocker cover was special, in that there were two "grooves" cut into the top for the inlet stubs to clear. The blower was chain driven through a small"gearbox" on the front of the blower.
Regards Ron Grant |
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JMH
United Kingdom
911 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2011 : 17:28:43
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Chris,
I'm a bit too thick to post photos on here, But if you stick up those photos I sent you everyone can see the original MG installation.
David - Oil Cooler? Eat that humbe pie boy!
JH |
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Chris Bucknell
Australia
107 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2011 : 07:36:51
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OK Jeremy,
Must admit took me a few goes to work out how to do post photos.
And even this time it took me two goes to work out what to copy and post.
I will leave the photo referencing to Jeremy as he provided them to me.
Regards,
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JMH
United Kingdom
911 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2011 : 21:56:29
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Why not turn it in to part II of your original quiz:
i) Who (the gent with the BRDC badge)?
ii) What?
iii) Where?
iv) When?
JH |
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George Eagle
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/01/2011 : 11:09:03
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Hi Jeremy
(i) Is the gent with the BRDC badge Gardner?
(ii) The car has an offset body so could be K3007
(iii) Probably taken at Brooklands
(iv) A wild guess - 1934
Probably wrong on all counts!!
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David Allison
United Kingdom
665 Posts |
Posted - 10/01/2011 : 11:22:56
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Chris:
I have no doubt you guys will get your own back.
Jeremy:
BRDC Badge - is Maj Gardener
Refitting the bonnet screws - Reg Jackson?
Kneeling Down - Henry Stone?
Where - could be Brooklands but didnt Gardener also race at Auvus Speed Week for a few years?
Date - I think 34 might be too early because I thought Horton still had the car then - is it 35 or 36 Speed Week?
Again probably wrong on al counts too!
Regards David |
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Cathelijne
Netherlands
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Posted - 10/01/2011 : 11:25:27
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1934 perhaps a bit on the early side if it is indeed Gardner (to which I tend to agree)?
Think I'd give the same answers as George on the remaining questions.
Cheers,
Cat
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Gerhard Maier
Germany
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Posted - 10/01/2011 : 16:58:15
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Could be the photo was taken during the unsuccessful record attempt at Montlhery early 1935.
In that case the gent with the BRDC Badge could be Charles Brackenbury or Ronnie Horton.
But I think it was during the successful attempt June 23rd 1937
and the gent with the BRDC Badge was Goldie Gardner
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