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PreWarMG
Australia
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 Posted - 24/02/2012 : 12:15:09
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My speedo glass is missing, but before I send it away for repair, I thought I should check it is an M-Type Speedo.
Can any experts on M-Types help me here ?.
The chassis number is 2M-3440.
Thanks
Tony
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sam christie
United Kingdom
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Posted - 24/02/2012 : 13:35:55
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Tony,this is really what you need.This speedometer is marked 'PCN'
The earliest M-types had a panel like this with a speedometer marked 'PC' as below.
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PreWarMG
Australia
440 Posts |
Posted - 24/02/2012 : 22:03:12
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Hi Sam,
Thanks for the photos - very helpfull, so it seems I have something odd then - time to start searching for an original panel & instruments - very rare in Australia I suspect.
Anyone with M-Type bits spare ?? - anywhere ??
cheers
Tony
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greg
United Kingdom
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Posted - 24/02/2012 : 23:04:42
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| Hello tony what you have is a f type pannel. The black rotax dash above has (I think) our instruments in. I have just sold a complete m type pannel as good as the black rotax one. I have all the instruments. I may be able to help you with the whole thing it's the switches which is the hardest thing to get. You may still be able to buy the blank rotax panels new? |
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sam christie
United Kingdom
3118 Posts |
Posted - 25/02/2012 : 08:39:38
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Tony,the Rotax panel above is a very good copy made by member Garry Waiting/gmwaiting (in fact the photo is his) and if you look at the picture again you will see two more panels not made up.Garry made a small batch and it is possible he may still have one left.I have one of these in my own car and the quality is first class.
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Keith Durston
United Kingdom
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Posted - 25/02/2012 : 08:54:35
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Hi Tony,
I may be able to help with an original Oval panel for the later M type as per Sam's photo of the black panel. It has no instruments or switches but Greg may be able help with these. If you are interested send me an email. I could be interested in a swap for your white faced ammeter and oil pressure gauge for my Coupe rebuild if you want to revert to the black faced dials.
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PeterL
United Kingdom
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Posted - 25/02/2012 : 09:02:53
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Hello Keith and Tony
I have a white faced ammeter and need an F instrument panel...
Cheers
P |
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sam christie
United Kingdom
3118 Posts |
Posted - 25/02/2012 : 09:24:04
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Is the F-type panel the same as the D-type?
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PreWarMG
Australia
440 Posts |
Posted - 25/02/2012 : 09:48:31
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Thanks for all the info chaps. I have taken some better photos of the instruments I have and they are pretty close to the white faced ones in sam's photos, so it seems I need the early type panel (not the Rotax one), and find a good home for the F-Type panel I have.
The whole dash has been made to suit the F-panel, so it looks like a full dash build is in order, while I get the instruments overhauled and re-faced in white.
Does anyone have build details on a dash ?.
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PeterL
United Kingdom
1736 Posts |
Posted - 25/02/2012 : 11:37:17
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Sam, yes it is...
Cheers
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davies
United Kingdom
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Posted - 25/02/2012 : 11:38:22
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| I have a full-size "paper" template of the dashboard with all original holes, cubby hole etc correctly labelled. If interested contact me via e.mail. Rich |
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sam christie
United Kingdom
3118 Posts |
Posted - 25/02/2012 : 12:00:53
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Tony, I think your speedometer is of a type (a 0-80mph PC is very hard to find) possibly from a Wolseley Hornet.Because it is 'PC' it would work fine in an M-type though it would only blend in on the early panel.The oil pressure gauge is the same as the early M-type and the OHC Morris Minor.
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John Haine
United Kingdom
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Posted - 25/02/2012 : 18:10:45
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| Tony, If your chassis number is 3440, which is a very late one, surely you should be going for the late M-Type instruments (black face), not the early ones. John |
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PreWarMG
Australia
440 Posts |
Posted - 25/02/2012 : 19:12:23
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It looks like my first priority today is to confirm the chassis number - when was the change from early to late type panels - does anyone know ?.
Thanks again for all your help chaps - I'm on a steep learning curve on M-Types at present.
While the instruments I have may not be correct for my chassis - until I can find a complete correct panel & instruments I'd rather keep the car on the road with the "wrong" instruments.
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PreWarMG
Australia
440 Posts |
Posted - 25/02/2012 : 19:14:37
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Does anyone know a supplier for replacement black faces if I need to "convert" my white face gauges ?.
TIA
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sam christie
United Kingdom
3118 Posts |
Posted - 25/02/2012 : 19:44:23
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Tony I think John is right though it is very difficult to find all the right parts.
There is a speedometer which looks almost the same as the original black faced 0-80 (new and unused and possibly army surplus) which turns up very commonly and though 0-60 and unchromed otherwise looks very similar.Sadly a misconception that this is an M-type speedometer can distort the price (especially on eBay where the one pictured has just sold for an excessive £145).
Some chroming would improve the effect but the main drawback is that the ratio is completely wrong but there are adaptors "Gear Ratio Adapter to speed your Speedometer" seen on eBay from the USA which they claim "will slow your speedometer down as much as 58% or speed it up as much as 200%." These adaptors sell at US $62.00....Has anyone any experience of these?
You could fit the other two gauges to a Rotax panel (after all they are almost right) as they are and replace the faces at your convenience.
An original M-type Rotax switch unit is almost impossible to find but I imagine with some thought you might be able to get some other switch to do much the same job (perhaps the switch from the panel you have). The rest is a matter of ingenuity...and remember someone out there wants your F-type panel or that rather nice rare 0-80 white faced PCN unit.
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