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MG Maverick
United Kingdom
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Posted - 21/01/2013 : 17:29:29
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Before I get too involved with the newly aquired J2 restoration, what is the general feeling towards powder coating ?
I have up to now sprayed my bare chassis's ( media blasted clean ) with Extreme Chassis Black Paint by Eastmans( from Frosts ). I have had good results from this paint. I was reading in my newly aquired ' Practical Guide ' by G. Howell that Powder Coating is the way to go.
What is the general concensus ? The only J2 I have seen thus far is in a showroom, this had a powder coated chassis.
Chris ( J2353 ) |
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paul55
Luxembourg
732 Posts |
Posted - 21/01/2013 : 17:48:18
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just my opinion, but powder coating hides the chassis history. It covers all the small imperfections that a chassis should show after 80 years. but again, its just my 2 bob's worth, Paul. |
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DickMorbey
United Kingdom
3682 Posts |
Posted - 21/01/2013 : 17:49:35
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Chris, I think there has been some traffic on this subject on our Forum, but probably in the archived posts now.
I think there is a fairly firm view that powder coating may not be the way to go, for a variety of reasons - principally because corrosion can arise from small stone chips and then travel undetected under the paint finish, causing further corrosion until it erupts.
Powder coating may also produce a super-lustrous fnish which some people consider OTT!
I was advised to use a spray-on polyurethane enamel. This was applied professionally immediately after the chassis was blast cleaned and 12 years on it is still in a happy condition.
And now over to the others ....
Dick PA/PB 0743 Nr. Henley-on-Thames, Oxon, UK |
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LewPalmer
USA
3251 Posts |
Posted - 21/01/2013 : 17:53:39
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Also, a tightened bolt/nut can cause chipping of the hardened power coat leading to the sub-surface rust Dick mentioned. Paint will be more flexible and forgiving.
Lew Palmer
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MG Maverick
United Kingdom
1045 Posts |
Posted - 21/01/2013 : 17:56:55
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Thanks Chaps....thats just what I thought, but I needed to make sure.
Chris ( J2353 ) |
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talbot
United Kingdom
718 Posts |
Posted - 21/01/2013 : 18:23:37
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If you have to make any mods at all such as drilling a hole for a clip the integrety of the powder coating is lost. If it is painted you just need to get out the tin and the brush.
Jan T |
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Foz
United Kingdom
773 Posts |
Posted - 23/01/2013 : 12:41:43
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Try ICI Weathershield System..... go to a Dulux Centre and get it there as they will do a proper oil based mix of undercoat an(dark grey) and Black.. and for metal..and can be patched up at any time! as I know with my car..... Foz |
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Foz
United Kingdom
773 Posts |
Posted - 28/01/2013 : 14:29:53
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PS......forgot to mention (seemed obvious at the time) that 1932 cycle wings cars had the exposed parts of the chassis painted body colour.....so take a colour sample to get the right chassis colour mixed. Foz |
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MG Maverick
United Kingdom
1045 Posts |
Posted - 28/01/2013 : 15:13:52
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Thanks Foz, Did that apply to 1933 models as well ? Sorry to be picky but I am new to this model.
Chris ( J2353 ) |
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Foz
United Kingdom
773 Posts |
Posted - 29/01/2013 : 09:17:14
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Hi Chris, cycle wing J2/3/4 and F2......I believe all were painted this way.....changed when MG went on to swept wings. Foz |
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bahnisch
Australia
674 Posts |
Posted - 29/01/2013 : 09:34:36
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I gave up on all of this and painted my F2 black! It was a popular "colour" back in the old days and it suited me (and the car!). |
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
6179 Posts |
Posted - 29/01/2013 : 10:34:57
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[quote]Originally posted by Foz
Hi Chris, cycle wing J2/3/4 and F2......I believe all were painted this way.....changed when MG went on to swept wings. Foz [/quote
Have to disagree there, Foz. From this photo of my car in its youth the exposed chassis frame below the front valance is clearly darker in colour than the surrounding bodywork. Definitely black I would say.
![](http://www.triple-mregister.org/forums/uploads/Simon Johnston/201312910_Chassis crop.jpg)
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Edited by - Simon Johnston on 29/01/2013 10:45:08 |
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Jamie
Canada
218 Posts |
Posted - 29/01/2013 : 16:31:40
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My understanding is that the upper and lower cycle wing supports are indeed painted body colour, the chassis rails and crossmembers being black, ie, the exposed chassis/frame below the valence was always black. Jamie |
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
6179 Posts |
Posted - 29/01/2013 : 16:58:55
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Agreed, Jamie, my photos would bear that out and that's the way the car is again today. |
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Oz34
United Kingdom
2570 Posts |
Posted - 29/01/2013 : 17:06:15
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It seems to me, & this is only speculation; I have no facts, that we are talking of a £200 car. Are they seriously going to take chassis aside & paint them red, green or whatever? Surely they had a stack of black frames & cars were built up on these?
Dave |
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
6179 Posts |
Posted - 29/01/2013 : 17:23:49
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The notion may have come from photos of the prototype where the chassis rails are clearly painted the same as the body.
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And note the hood and side screens which are clearly not black! |
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