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graham3647
United Kingdom
448 Posts |
 Posted - 02/08/2015 : 10:35:11
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I have just obtained my car details from the archives and the car was originally painted Blue with Blue interior, wheels in silver as stated on the build chart.
I assume that the Blue would have come from a standard colour chart. Does such a chart exist now and if so would I be able to obtain the RAL number or any indication of the shade of Blue?
MG PB 0726 manufactured 1936.
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Bruce Sutherland
United Kingdom
1564 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2015 : 11:17:34
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Graham,
There may be some help if you look in "Document Downloads - Technical - Miscellaneous - Paint Colours".
Bruce. (PB0564) |
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Drolshagen
Germany
669 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2015 : 11:25:42
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Hi Graham,
I hope the following attachment could be helpful for you?
cheers Carl
J2 4362
L2 2036 |
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graham3647
United Kingdom
448 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2015 : 18:32:25
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Thanks, Bruce/ Carl. your information most welcome. I have just have to decide if I like the colour now?
Many thanks for your assistance.
Graham. |
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Bruce Sutherland
United Kingdom
1564 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2015 : 19:27:39
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Graham,
There is more information on Triple-M paint/colours if you log-in and do a search on "two-tone paint".
Note that for a P Type the two-tone split should be;
(a) The lighter shade body tub, doors, and bonnet , and
(b) The darker shade for the wings, front apron, rear wing stays, radiator slats, and spare wheel carrier (ref. Mike Allison, see search results – NB. A waistline colour split was for 6 cylinder N-Magnettes).
Bruce. (PB0564) |
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DickMorbey
United Kingdom
3677 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2015 : 21:29:04
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Bruce, I don't think you are correct about the front apron being in the darker shade on two-tone P-types. The petrol tank is in the lighter shade, whereas the front wing stays are the darker (but soemtime black anyway!
Dick Morbey
PA/PB 0743
Frieth, Oxon, UK |
Edited by - DickMorbey on 02/08/2015 21:30:43 |
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Bruce Sutherland
United Kingdom
1564 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2015 : 22:29:01
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Dick,
Please see this previous post:
"Posted - 16/07/2008 : 12:37:16 Show Profile Email Poster
Hi Bruce,
I am glad you asked this one, as most people seem to think that a colour break at the waist-line is the way to go for the Midgets, but this only applied to the N-Magnettes. The NA having the lighter shade lower, and the NB higher.
All the Midgets were as you described, body tub lighter shade, and wings darker. The apron, tank and so forth all match the wings. I was told by Jack Butler, foreman of the paint shop in my time, that the reason for this was that the wings, apron, and tank were painted at Abingdon, and the body tub in Coventry! Colour matching in those days was done by batches of paint, and it was never easy for the two factories to mix IDENTICAL colours. The radiator slats on the two-tone cars was to the darker colour. All parts associated with the chassis were black, except the heavy parts of the spare-wheel carrier, which should be the darker shade.
MG were one of the pioneers in this country of two-tone colour schemes, this being a feature of the original Bullnose panelled (as opposed to fabric) saloons, te tourers having engine-turned and polished lower panels.
I hope this helps.
Good luck!
Mike Allison"
Bruce. (PB0564) |
Edited by - Bruce Sutherland on 02/08/2015 22:31:41 |
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Oz34
United Kingdom
2538 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2015 : 23:11:51
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Bruce,
I hate to argue with Mike however, this well known factory photo was published, among other places, in Mike's book, "The Magic of MG";
I agree we cannot really see the tank, but the apron is clearly in the lighter tone and my own feeling is that a dark tank looks frankly weird. I realise that that statement would not cut much ice with a car manufacturer, but one cannot argue with their own photo!
I think the extreme top of the tank may be visible in the triangle between the tonneau, spare wheel and rear wing, and that it IS pale.
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rodb
New Zealand
260 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2015 : 23:38:39
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Have a look at the members cars images in this website, NB, and look at the two blues of Tom Metcalf's NB 2 seater.
These two blues are identical to an NB in our workshop especialy from the area of the front panel under the wing flange. Also the same as a PB in Toms care.
The late Terry Andrews, Tom and I did much work identifying these correct shades of blue. Posting samples around the world.
They are not the modern equivalent colours mentioned in the previous hand written notes. These correct modern equivelant shades are described in a post in the archives.
When I say corrrect it would seem consistent over 3-4 cars of that era, but as has been noted, shades may have been slightly different as batches were produced at the time.
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LewPalmer
USA
3243 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2015 : 02:24:02
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Although I claim to be anything but an expert, let's remember that the question was asked of a PB, not an NB. The color shades on an NB are mostly reversed from those on a PB. I am told this is due to the larger profile of the N types over the P types. I'm don't claim to know whether this applied to all N types or just the NB.
Lew Palmer
PA1169, PB0560 |
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rodb
New Zealand
260 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2015 : 03:42:46
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Lew, Tom can verify this himself, but I did include a PB reference of his in my post as it was confirmed at that time as being the same shades of blues as the NB's that we were comparing.
I am only trying to asist with the shades of blue.
RodB NZ |
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PeterL
United Kingdom
1722 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2015 : 08:01:03
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| Just to add to the debate, my little rather original green 2 tone J has a light tank and dark front apron. |
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
6122 Posts |
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Oz34
United Kingdom
2538 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2015 : 09:02:06
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Since my post last night I have had a trawl though "The Magic of MG" and find a swept wing J2, very like the one Simon found, and showing quite clearly a pale apron as do an L1 Salonette, an L2 and the prototype PB however, the real coup is this showing quite clearly a pale tank; I rest my case.
Cheers,
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Colin McLachlan
United Kingdom
991 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2015 : 09:02:09
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If you drive it fast enough no-one will notice the colour! 
Colin
Markinch, Fife.
PA 0613
MG3242
Register No. 2591 |
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
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