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critch
United Kingdom
9 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2015 : 13:57:42
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Hi, does anyone have recommendation for rear lights and indicators for a P Type please. James |
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
6155 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2015 : 14:40:14
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James,
Use the standard ST38 rear light, convert it to an LED stop, tail and indicator light board, fit a split amber/red lens, and paint the lens with red stained glass paint to disguise the amber lens. Looks absolutely original and gives you the lights you need. The LEDs are available from Peter Jury www.dynamoregulatorconversions.com
No connection with the company - just a satisfied customer.
Simon J J3437 |
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LewPalmer
USA
3247 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2015 : 16:52:31
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Why would one need to buy a red/amber lens and paint it all red when solid red ST38 lenses are readily available. Besides, I thought European regulations required amber turn signals.
At the risk of being censured for posting on the wrong forum, I am also a source for ST38 and ST51 LED tail lamp inserts.
Lew Palmer PA1169, PB0560 |
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
6155 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2015 : 17:25:24
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Lew,
The reason for using the amber/red lens and then painting it red is that the amber flasher then shows amber through the red painted lens. If you just used a red lens, it wouldn't work.
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As for the legal position, flashing red turn signals are legal but as most drivers expect to see amber ones, it seems safer to stick with amber front and back.
P.S. The front side lights can also be easily converted to dual filament bulbs and fitted with LED bulbs to give regular white sidelights with flashing amber turn signals. Simon J J3437 |
Edited by - Simon Johnston on 07/09/2015 17:32:26 |
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Colin McLachlan
United Kingdom
994 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2015 : 09:31:20
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I have also fitted my PA with a set of LED lamps from www.dynamoregulatorconversions.com, and can recommend them. Being less concerned with the originality police, I've left mine with amber lenses. Do the headlamps as well, and you'll never need to worry about a flat battery when driving at night.
Colin
Markinch, Fife. PA 0613 MG3242 Register No. 2591 |
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
6155 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2015 : 11:39:26
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To be honest, it's more aesthetics than originality. I just don't like the look of the amber lenses on a 1930s car.
Simon J J3437 |
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LewPalmer
USA
3247 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2015 : 15:27:32
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Simon, I don't mean to be argumentative, but any LED shining through a lens of a different color will lose some of its brilliance. So to have amber LEDs behind a red lens will filter some of the amber light. So if the goal is to show amber turn signals, it is best to use amber LEDs with an amber lens. Likewise with red.
Lew Palmer PA1169, PB0560 |
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
6155 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2015 : 15:54:17
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What can I say, Lew? The flashing amber turn signal is plenty bright enough, even in bright daylight. The red paint used - stained glass paint - doesn't seem to noticeably dim the brightness of the amber LED and I'm very happy with it.
Simon J J3437 |
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Gordon
United Kingdom
693 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2015 : 17:46:26
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Colin, In the headlights are you using the latest dipping LED headlight bulbs and if so do they dip satisfactorily?
Gordon ex owner of PB 0331, MG4473 Derby |
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Colin McLachlan
United Kingdom
994 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2015 : 10:42:02
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I'm using the "BA15d double dipper bulb". This is fitted to the original reflector using a twin terminal bulb holder. As the LED for the dipped beam is on the top of the unit, it is totally shielded from the bottom half of the reflector, so only reflects off the top half, thus giving a very clear cut. On main beam the LED underneath comes on as well as the top one, thus filling the entire reflector. So far I've only set these up against the garage wall, and have not checked them at night. They are focused like an early twin filament bulb, by moving the holder in and out in the reflector. Then of course you have to slacken off the big nut under the headlamp unit to set the height of the beam. Even on main beam there is no discernible movement of the car's ammeter.
Colin
Markinch, Fife. PA 0613 MG3242 Register No. 2591 |
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
6155 Posts |
Posted - 24/09/2015 : 14:12:45
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I wonder did the original poster find these replies helpful?
Simon J J3437 |
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