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Simon Johnston

United Kingdom
6119 Posts

Posted - 27/08/2016 :  13:06:23  Show Profile
This photo of a J2 having its brakes adjusted was taken in January 1933. Some nice points of detail - note the brackets to move the headlights inwards and the way the headlight wiring is just extended across, seemingly with an extra piece added on and the joint taped over. But more intriguingly, that looks to be a 12" brake being adjusted. Were they an optional extra? I wonder which car this is.






P.S. This also shows that the strengthened windscreen frame was in production in January 33.
Simon J
J3437

Edited by - Simon Johnston on 27/08/2016 13:14:34

PeterL

United Kingdom
1722 Posts

Posted - 27/08/2016 :  14:57:57  Show Profile
Note also the stays supporting the firewall from the front of the body. Who made the alternative J2 bodies? was this how they were done? It is the same as my salonette (F0639).

It was on petrolift and vacuum wipers.

The brackets to move the headlamps inboard were replaced by a new casting for the wing stays which had longer "stalks" for the headlamps, these were still being fitted when my swept wing J2 (J3485) was built in July '33. Only the cycle winged cars needed them...

The rubber insulation strips down the front of the chassis are clear, can't see the shock absorbers and the tyres look worn...

cheers

P
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LewPalmer

USA
3242 Posts

Posted - 27/08/2016 :  15:26:40  Show Profile
I suggest this is not a car being manufactured, but rather a customer car being serviced. That might explain the curious differences between standard and custom parts.

Lew Palmer
PA1169, PB0560
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sam christie

United Kingdom
3099 Posts

Posted - 27/08/2016 :  16:30:09  Show Profile
The picture was published "Feb 3. 1933"






Sam
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LewPalmer

USA
3242 Posts

Posted - 27/08/2016 :  18:44:51  Show Profile
Curious, but since by the publication date the J2 was 6 months old, it is unlikely but still possible. F-type brakes being fitted by request of the customer???
Does the article referred to on the cover reveal anything?

Lew Palmer
PA1169, PB0560

Edited by - LewPalmer on 27/08/2016 18:46:01
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Simon Johnston

United Kingdom
6119 Posts

Posted - 27/08/2016 :  21:14:33  Show Profile
Sam! You're giving away our secret sources!

Peter,
The Petrolift and suction wipers are what you'd expect for a photo taken in January 1933 but the worn tyres would suggest a customer's car brought in to have the 12" brakes fitted and perhaps the headlight brackets as well as they don't look as though they were fitted originally, given the rather crude wiring (even by M.G. standards of the time!). Also there seems to be a bonnet strap hanging over the radiator stay so clearly a 'hot' motor! But I'm not sure what you are referring to in relation to the cross bracing between body and firewall?

Lew,
Did you spot anything else as you seemed to suggest other differences between standard and custom parts?

P.S. Is the suction wiper motor painted black?

Simon J
J3437

Edited by - Simon Johnston on 27/08/2016 21:15:38
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Eric Taylor

France
157 Posts

Posted - 27/08/2016 :  22:17:44  Show Profile
It does seem a bit strange. Perhaps it was a prototype M.G. J5 !

Eric Taylor.
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Simon Johnston

United Kingdom
6119 Posts

Posted - 27/08/2016 :  22:27:20  Show Profile
I don't see it as being all that strange. The 12" brakes had been available since the introduction of the F3 in September the previous year and I'm sure M.G. would have supplied them on special order, but at a price! Perhaps only to favoured customers, though, which is why it would be interesting to know which/whose car this is.

Simon J
J3437
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Eric Taylor

France
157 Posts

Posted - 27/08/2016 :  22:35:48  Show Profile
Only joking Simon. However I notice there is no tax disc just a sticker on the windscreen saying (?) OK.

Eric Taylor.
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LewPalmer

USA
3242 Posts

Posted - 28/08/2016 :  01:19:13  Show Profile
Simon,
Nothing more than has already been mentioned - 12 inch brakes, headlamp mountings, worn tires, beefier style windscreen stanchions.

Lew Palmer
PA1169, PB0560
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Simon Johnston

United Kingdom
6119 Posts

Posted - 28/08/2016 :  06:02:32  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Eric Taylor

Only joking Simon. However I notice there is no tax disc just a sticker on the windscreen saying (?) OK.

Eric Taylor.



Perhaps the owner was getting the latest style, strengthened windscreen fitted as well and the sticker relates to that? The tax disc could be mounted on the near side screen stanchion where it can't be seen.

Simon J
J3437
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JMH

United Kingdom
911 Posts

Posted - 31/08/2016 :  13:25:18  Show Profile
I think mounting the Tax Disc on the near side screen stanchion must have been quite common. At least one J2 owner has picked up a "ticket" for "not correctly displaying a tax disc" because the screen was folded down when Mr Plod was having a hard day.

JH
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Simon Johnston

United Kingdom
6119 Posts

Posted - 31/08/2016 :  16:11:33  Show Profile
Like this?




Simon J
J3437
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JMH

United Kingdom
911 Posts

Posted - 31/08/2016 :  17:51:23  Show Profile
Exactly





(the photo was taken after the ticket)

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Oz34

United Kingdom
2538 Posts

Posted - 31/08/2016 :  19:15:26  Show Profile
Note the brake drum colour!

Dave
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John Brinkmann

USA
153 Posts

Posted - 31/08/2016 :  20:49:40  Show Profile

Elsewhere on the Forum there is discussion of body mods necessary when fitting 12" brakes to the rear axle of a J2. Did the factory make these complex modifications when fitting the larger brakes?

http://www.triple-mregister.org/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11172

John.
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