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Moth eaten
Australia
954 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2018 : 05:50:27
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A lovely period photograph. I remember looking at Otto Stones K3 on display in Lanes Motors Exhibition St Melbourne. It looked super in British Racing Green.

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colintf
United Kingdom
1537 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2018 : 08:56:46
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Wartime photo?
Colin Murrell D0285 Photographer for MGCC (LeMans Classic, Oldtimer Grand Prix etc) & MG Motor (BTCC 2012-5) http://www.triple-mracing.com/ |
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George Eagle
United Kingdom
3288 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2018 : 10:19:36
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I have looked at the pictures in the book Mille Miglia 1927-1957 by Giovanni Lurani and think this might be Burkin/Rubin K3 competing in K3002 in the 1933 Mille Miglia.
Certainly the colour of the helmets match - one light coloured and the other much darker - and the numbers also look the same as another picture on page 67 of the car in the book.
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Edited by - George Eagle on 08/11/2018 10:20:20 |
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Oz34
United Kingdom
2658 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2018 : 10:23:24
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I couldn't comment on the K number but, the peculiar hooded sidelights and everything about the car says '33 Mille Miglia. I think it also has a "flavour" of Italy about the setting. Could be wrong there though!
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Westbury
United Kingdom
2191 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2018 : 10:51:00
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Hello, all.
I noticed this picture which is currently for sale on EBay.
I am actually in the process of fitting a pair of the foglamps on my K type. In the photograph, the lamps appear to use a pair of mounting brackets /clips on each lamp but in a similar photograph I have of what appears to be the same car in the same spot, the car has only one mounting bracket. (?)
When I bought these lamps recently, they had two mounting brackets on each lamp (GUICHERD make), however, in every other photograph I have seen, there is only one mounting bracket per lamp. Anyone have any information on this ? I am wondering whether, in practice, it was found that one bracket was Inadequate.
Regards,
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colintf
United Kingdom
1537 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2018 : 11:04:30
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quote: Originally posted by colintf
Wartime photo?
Colin Murrell D0285 Photographer for MGCC (LeMans Classic, Oldtimer Grand Prix etc) & MG Motor (BTCC 2012-5) http://www.triple-mracing.com/
silly me, I mistook something by the drivers headlight as a wartime like light deflector - the joys of looking at photos on a small screen|!! 
Colin Murrell D0285 Photographer for MGCC (LeMans Classic, Oldtimer Grand Prix etc) & MG Motor (BTCC 2012-5) http://www.triple-mracing.com/ |
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Westbury
United Kingdom
2191 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2018 : 11:04:52
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I have just realised that the car in Nigel’s picture is No 41 and is the Tim Birkin/ Bernard Rubin car for the 1933 Mille Miglia race. The car with the single bracket fog lamps pictured in the same spot as mentioned by George is the Eyston/ Lurani Car, No 39 in the race.
Chris
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Westbury
United Kingdom
2191 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2018 : 11:17:35
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For those interested, here is a picture of the lamps on my car.
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Gerhard Maier
Germany
902 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2018 : 16:45:59
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Nigel, really nice your photo of K3002, with Birkin at the wheel and Rubin as passenger, and interesting those foglamps.
Possibly taken at the same occasion but earlier in the day is the photo below. The headlamps are not yet masked, and the race number is not yet painted on the car. But Rubins "stylish" jacket seems to be the same.
By the way, Birkin only survived this photo for some weeks, as he died by a infection from a burned arm when racing a Maserati. And Rubin (of Australian ancestry) died of tuberculosis in 1936. Gerhard
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Brian Kelly
USA
526 Posts |
Posted - 19/11/2018 : 17:12:21
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With my neck sticking way out.
The "side lights" or the "Hooded fog lamps" were solely to illuminate the race number on the front apron.
Or, am I missing the thread here??
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Westbury
United Kingdom
2191 Posts |
Posted - 19/11/2018 : 17:36:17
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Hello, Brian.
They are genuine foglamps, presumably they were expecting possible foggy conditions during the race or ‘going prepared’ for anything !
Cheers,
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Westbury
United Kingdom
2191 Posts |
Posted - 19/11/2018 : 17:40:01
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The other thing which has just occurred to me is perhaps they were carried as a result of race regulations ?
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Brian Kelly
USA
526 Posts |
Posted - 21/11/2018 : 15:52:50
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Thanks for the clarification Chris.
The lamps were discussed on the Forum a number of years ago but I failed in my search for the posting.
Perhaps it's my foggy memory. 
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