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 MMM in a race 13.08.1933 in Echternach/Luxembourg
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MGuy

Luxembourg
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Posted - 02/01/2020 :  16:27:59  Show Profile
Hello, please find here a picture of the 1933 M.G. participating in the journée automobile 13.08.1933 in Echternach / Luxembourg (behind the Bugatti type 49).The numberplate of this car driven was 11347. What model of MMM was Jos Zigrand taking part in the class unto 1100cc? Thank you for your help!





Chairman of the M.G. Car Club Luxembourg / secretary of the Cercle MMM




Edited by - MGuy on 02/01/2020 16:41:41

Simon Johnston

United Kingdom
6121 Posts

Posted - 02/01/2020 :  17:37:17  Show Profile
I would hazard a guess and say it’s a J2 or a J3. It looks to be a cycle wing car with the close set headlights. An F2 wouldn’t be in the up to 1100cc Class.

Simon J
J3437

Edited by - Simon Johnston on 02/01/2020 17:39:01
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sven

Sweden
431 Posts

Posted - 02/01/2020 :  18:03:48  Show Profile
Simon
To me as an L type man the windscreen doesn't look like a J, or does it?

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Sven
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Simon Johnston

United Kingdom
6121 Posts

Posted - 02/01/2020 :  18:46:14  Show Profile
Sven,

I think it looks like a J2/3 screen (the same as an L2) with rounded corners at the top and what seem to be the protrusions of the B nuts at the bottom. The lower screen supports look to just go straight down, again, like a J2/3. The close set headlights are unique to the J2/3.

Should we interpret voitures de course as 'racing car'? If so, then perhaps a J3 but why was the Luxembourg Bugatti importer, Jos Zigrand, driving it?

Simon J
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Edited by - Simon Johnston on 02/01/2020 18:50:34
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PeterL

United Kingdom
1722 Posts

Posted - 02/01/2020 :  21:38:32  Show Profile
I think it might be a special bodied car, windscreen looks too wide to me...
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MGuy

Luxembourg
37 Posts

Posted - 03/01/2020 :  00:41:55  Show Profile
And it couldn't be a K-type?

Chairman of the M.G. Car Club Luxembourg / secretary of the Cercle MMM
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Simon Johnston

United Kingdom
6121 Posts

Posted - 03/01/2020 :  03:54:36  Show Profile
Factory K Types, apart from the K3 of course, were, I think, all swept wing cars which this doesn’t seem to be. Nor does it look wide enough to be a K Type of whatever model. We’ll probably never know for sure but the line of the rear cycle wings, the shape of the windscreen and its mounts and, especially, the close set headlights, would have me put my money on a J3 rather than a J2 since it’s seemingly in the racing car class rather than the touring car class.

Simon J
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Wiessmann

Germany
87 Posts

Posted - 03/01/2020 :  14:30:27  Show Profile
Joseph Zigrand's M.G. is listed here as 847cc:
https://forums.autosport.com/topic/53712-motorsport-in-luxembourg-when-didit-started/
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