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mg251
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 12/07/2013 : 14:31:51
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I bought this rather nice period photograph off ebay last week for the princely sum of £10. I think the cars a PA? and presumably its been used for trialing with the twin spares. I would love to know more about it, ID of the driver or car, etc. I know there are some very knowledgable people on the forum so maybe someone can shed some light on it.
Many thanks, Bob.
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Ray Masters
United Kingdom
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Posted - 13/07/2013 : 07:29:17
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| Bob. I have just been browsing Nailsworth Ladder & that lead me to a You Tube film of the 1936 Feddon Trial . On the film , of many cars climbing the hill , one of them is a P-Type with the Union Jack flag on the side which seems to be the same as on the photo you have. The Reg. No. of the car on the film is MG 4068. This many help you, assuming I am right & it is the same car , to identify it . Somebody, I'm sure, will have a list of entrants for the event. Let me know how you go on will you ?. Thanks , Ray. |
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Matthew Magilton
Australia
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Posted - 13/07/2013 : 11:19:55
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A little searching brings up the Triple M Bulletin of December 2010 where on page 38 there is a letter from Ian Coxen describing past owners and trials successes for MG 4068.
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mg251
United Kingdom
198 Posts |
Posted - 15/07/2013 : 11:54:59
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Thank you both very much for your replies. I will try and do some more research based on the info provided. Unfortunately I don't have the 2010 bulletin.
Regards Bob. |
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15/07/2013 : 11:57:46
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Bob,
You can download the December 2010 Bulletin from the Bulletin Download section of this site. |
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MaGic_GV
United Kingdom
868 Posts |
Posted - 16/07/2013 : 12:07:52
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This pic appears in the book 'Motoring in the 20s and 30s', and I always fancied that the chap pictured looks like Mac MacDermid, though perhaps he has a little more hair. In turn that would suggest the car is JB 3639, which became his Cream Cracker. Unfortunately the only pictures I have seen of Mac are when he is in his car on a trial, so not particularly clear...
Graham
"I'd rather be happy than right anyday" Slartybartfast, Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy |
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Brian Kelly
USA
526 Posts |
Posted - 16/07/2013 : 23:20:23
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The video that Ray M. suggested, clearly shows the car's reg as MG 4068.
There is a section of it shown at 4.23' - 5.01'(minutes)
I believe (hopefully.) that this link will take you directly to that period of the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0MNeKnRCZig#t=263s
Thanks Ray.
Brian
Edited. The above link starts at the beginning of the movie. |
Edited by - Brian Kelly on 16/07/2013 23:24:14 |
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Matthew Magilton
Australia
179 Posts |
Posted - 17/07/2013 : 00:44:53
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Brilliant link Brian!
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Brian Kelly
USA
526 Posts |
Posted - 17/07/2013 : 04:52:33
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The thanks should go to Ray, Matthew.
I was only the messenger.
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George Eagle
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17/07/2013 : 09:33:53
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What a lovely piece of filming - it even shows a P type 4 seater doing rather well. Perhaps the extra weight over the rear wheels helped traction!
George
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MaGic_GV
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17/07/2013 : 11:35:03
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Having looked at the footage, I must agree that it looks to be the same car... though the driver doesn't look to be the same chap! I notice also that the brake drums look silver in the picture, black on the film.
Great film - so many MGs that its hard to believe that there are any that haven't competed somewhere or other!
Another thought occurs - they could have been part of a team all wearing the Union Jack...
Graham
"I'd rather be happy than right anyday" Slartybartfast, Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy |
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MaGic_GV
United Kingdom
868 Posts |
Posted - 17/07/2013 : 15:39:20
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I have read Ian Coxen's note in the Bulletin and been doing a bit of digging around. Morrish gets a few mentions in CAN May's book 'More Wheelspin' and appears to have had some success post war. Of Hulbert I can find no mention. Pre war, Morrish is listed in Cowbourne with limited success, driving a Magnette, again no mention of Hulbert, nor any similar spelling I could think of.
The cup on the bonnet looks rather special, and I would of thought it was for a biggish event - perhaps not a trial, of course. The condition of the car and general look of the picture suggests pre-war, while it was clearly somewhat lightened in the Bulletin pic.
That's all I have found for now...
Graham
"I'd rather be happy than right anyday" Slartybartfast, Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy |
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Ray Masters
United Kingdom
568 Posts |
Posted - 18/07/2013 : 09:13:37
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| Sheer coincidence that I came across the video of the 1936 trial. I(sorry, we ) are going to a wedding shortly at Nailsworth & immediately thought I would google Nailsworth Ladder, (of more interest to me than the wedding!). All this at the time that there was the posting about the P-Type & unknown owner.Whilst watching it the sight of that unusual Union Jack on the bonnet side 'rang a bell'. |
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MaGic_GV
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18/07/2013 : 15:14:07
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A further small note - while swotting up another MG matter (well its too hot to do much else!) I noticed that the UJ on our car above is about the same size and position as that on the Le Mans PAs (which this is definitely not!) though the style of the flag differs (fluttering on the pic above, static on the Le Mans cars)
Just another titbit (if I can say that these days!)
Graham
"I'd rather be happy than right anyday" Slartybartfast, Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy |
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