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 Geoffrey Oyler J2 at Bo'ness?
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Colin McLachlan

United Kingdom
990 Posts

Posted - 22/04/2014 :  11:18:44  Show Profile
I was competing at Doune hill climb over the weekend when I was approached by a charming young lady (it happens all the time, what is this strange effect I have on women) who told me her grandfather, Geoffrey Oyler, used to race there in an MG in the 50s. I've just received these photos from her, and it looks to me more like Bo'ness (I'm checking this), and I think it is a J2. Update - definitely Bo'ness.










Anyone know anything, or does someone own this car now (looks like an NI registration, Simon). More info may be available from the grandaughter.

Colin

PA 0613
MG3242
Register No. 2591

Edited by - Colin McLachlan on 22/04/2014 11:20:02

Simon Johnston

United Kingdom
6119 Posts

Posted - 22/04/2014 :  12:48:29  Show Profile
It certainly seems to be an NI registration - BZ**** but I wonder is it an L rather than a J? the brakes look to be 12" and the wing stay looks a a bit home made.

Simon J
J3437
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Colin McLachlan

United Kingdom
990 Posts

Posted - 22/04/2014 :  12:54:35  Show Profile
Hey, good point about the brakes Simon - I missed that! I agree about the stays, though I'm not an expert on Js. I have a friend researching the Bo'ness archives to see if he can find more details, and I'll post them if they turn up.

Would that registration be BZx ddd, where x is a letter and d is a number, or could it be BZ dddd?

Colin

PA 0613
MG3242
Register No. 2591
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Simon Johnston

United Kingdom
6119 Posts

Posted - 22/04/2014 :  15:29:56  Show Profile
Colin,

It would be BZ followed by up to four digits. It's a County Down series that ran from 1930 to 1946. The photos would suggest that it had four digits but that doesn't really tell us much.

Simon J
J3437
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Colin McLachlan

United Kingdom
990 Posts

Posted - 22/04/2014 :  19:32:47  Show Profile
My friend Kenny Baird, who has the Bo'ness Hill Climb archive, has identified this photo as the International Hill Climb meeting held on 17 May 1947. The entry was for a 1287cc MG, unsupercharged, which confirms that it was a 6 cylinder MG. it seems that this was the only time he entered.

Does anyone recognise the car? Is it currently on the register? Does anyone know where it is now?

Colin

PA 0613
MG3242
Register No. 2591
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LewPalmer

USA
3242 Posts

Posted - 22/04/2014 :  20:23:35  Show Profile
There is no car, 6 cylinder or otherwise, with the registration number BZ??72 on the 2012 printer register.

Lew Palmer
PA1169, PB0560
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George Eagle

United Kingdom
3237 Posts

Posted - 22/04/2014 :  21:12:07  Show Profile
I think the car is an L type - it is almost possible to discern the distinctive L radiator shell in then first photo?

George

L2023
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powerplus

United Kingdom
599 Posts

Posted - 22/04/2014 :  22:57:23  Show Profile

The scuttle humps look wrong for an L type and look more like an NB. At 1286cc engine size it is more likely to be an N.

Powerplus.
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Peter Green

United Kingdom
1682 Posts

Posted - 30/04/2014 :  00:11:33  Show Profile
I agree with Alan when he says N type, but if the windscreen supports are original it is an ND (which had K2 bodies) not an NB.

Peter.
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George Eagle

United Kingdom
3237 Posts

Posted - 01/05/2014 :  10:52:09  Show Profile
Initially I did not think the car was an N, as Peter has indicated the windscreen supports are not standard N pattern so it could well be an ND.

None of the surviving NDs has a Registration number beginning with BZ.

George
L2023

Edited by - George Eagle on 01/05/2014 10:53:16
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Cathelijne

Netherlands
744 Posts

Posted - 07/05/2014 :  13:33:00  Show Profile
From Mike Allison's files I gather that if it is indeed an ND, there are only three possibilities: NA0333 which is in Australia with Harry Hickling (who might well be able to tell us with what registration is was kitted out when he bought it, although it has none in the current listing) and NA0415 and NA0515 of which the last one supposedly won the 1935 Irish GP. Neither of these are currently listed.
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