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Gabriel
Sweden
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 Posted - 27/07/2016 : 12:55:21
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This car came to Sweden around 1987 as a part of the Swedish "Rex Collection" owned by Thomas Sköld. Sold to Stefan Jergel late 1991. Stefan sold the car 1993 to Birgitta Cassmer who what I know
sold the car to Pär Skogslind 1995. What I know it is still in the ownership of Pär Skogslind.
Regarding the Car, Stefan writes in his write up of Swedish M-Types that 2M 3342 That the MG service Department 1936 changed to hydraulic brakes and changed the engine.
I remember helping Stefan to start the car when he had it delivered from Rex Collection. I can´t remember if it had a three speeder or a four speed gearbox at that time. I would not be surprised if the
gearbox was changed here in Sweden.
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Jacken
Sweden
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Posted - 27/07/2016 : 13:28:45
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| Yes gabriel is correct. Pär is my father and we still have the car. The engine and brakes are upgraded |
Edited by - Jacken on 27/07/2016 13:32:28 |
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sam christie
United Kingdom
3101 Posts |
Posted - 27/07/2016 : 14:17:01
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Originally posted by sam christie
Does anyone know what registration number is associated with chassis number 2M 3101?
Sam
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LewPalmer
USA
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Posted - 27/07/2016 : 14:27:53
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The chassis file says PJ3200.
Lew Palmer
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sam christie
United Kingdom
3101 Posts |
Posted - 27/07/2016 : 14:52:56
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Thanks Lew.
Do 2M 3342 and 2M 3101 share the same registration number PJ 3200?
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LewPalmer
USA
3244 Posts |
Posted - 27/07/2016 : 16:06:28
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2M3342 has no number listed for Original Registration Number, but PJ3200 is referenced at sometime during its history with "unknown" as the date. The current number is listed as PDN196.
Of course, the number could have been swapped at sometime in the past.
Lew Palmer
PA1169, PB0560 |
Edited by - LewPalmer on 27/07/2016 16:08:05 |
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Jacken
Sweden
12 Posts |
Posted - 27/07/2016 : 17:19:31
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| PDN196 is the swedish registration plate. PJ3200 is the old english plate nr |
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Jacken
Sweden
12 Posts |
Posted - 27/07/2016 : 18:47:24
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I took some photos for those who wondered about gearbox and engine chassi nr
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sam christie
United Kingdom
3101 Posts |
Posted - 27/07/2016 : 19:21:59
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Thanks Jacken, those are excellent pictures.
This is a clearer view of the position of the identity number which is more correctly known as a 'sanction number'.
Sam |
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Mike the M
United Kingdom
481 Posts |
Posted - 27/07/2016 : 20:40:54
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I have now had all the paperwork from John Joynes and it will in due course be put on the new website.
However, after discussions with John and looking through the paperwork the 1954 continuation log book states that the engine number is "MG 3101 A" and the chassis number is "2/M 3101 A".
However, the June 1990 Vehicle Registration Document states that the engine number is "2-M3101A" but the chassis number is "2-M3342"!
I would therefore suggest that the 1954 log book is where all the errors have occurred!
However, I would like to see a picture of the chassis number on the front knuckle!
There is now I think there appears to be a problem with the register, for my "boss" to correct!
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Peter Green
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27/07/2016 : 22:07:40
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If the chassis number is 2M 3342 how and when did the Registration Number PJ 3200 get transferred to it?
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sam christie
United Kingdom
3101 Posts |
Posted - 27/07/2016 : 22:42:31
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Here is a very clear example -
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LewPalmer
USA
3244 Posts |
Posted - 27/07/2016 : 22:46:23
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It looks to me as if PJ3200 was always the registration mark for 2M3342. The fact that at some time the engine number was mistakenly used as the chassis number. 2M3101 is not known to still exist, but I would believe that if we knew its registration mark that it would not be PJ3200, so the only confusion is way back in history due to a transcription error. Case settled?
Lew Palmer
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Peter Green
United Kingdom
1682 Posts |
Posted - 27/07/2016 : 22:57:47
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Lew,
I do not think the case is settled because the Factory Chassis File for 2M 3101 states that its original Registration Number was PJ 3200.
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LewPalmer
USA
3244 Posts |
Posted - 27/07/2016 : 23:03:19
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Is that the actual paper chassis file, Peter? Or are we going by the database or printed register which seems to have picked up the transcription error along the way at some time?
If it is the actual paper chassis file, I find it to be an amazing coincidence that one car would have a registration mark that is shared by another car which has a chassis number the same as the first car's engine number.
Methinks something is very fishy. Far more likely that is was the registration document error from years ago that somehow got into the Register records.
Lew Palmer
PA1169, PB0560 |
Edited by - LewPalmer on 27/07/2016 23:08:14 |
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