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Peter Green
United Kingdom
1682 Posts |
 Posted - 27/07/2016 : 23:50:21
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Lew,
I am stating the facts as recorded on the new database which have been copied from the original paper chassis files. Unfortunately there is no record of what the original Registration Number was for chassis number 2M 3342.
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sam christie
United Kingdom
3101 Posts |
Posted - 27/07/2016 : 23:51:53
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Which car does the history relate to - PJ 3200? or PDN 196?
Perhaps the "comprehensive documentation and history running back to the forties" is the key. Has anyone seen the press reports from November 1945?
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Jacken
Sweden
12 Posts |
Posted - 28/07/2016 : 07:12:44
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I will try to locate the chassie nr on the front knuckle.
Sam, PDN196 is the swedish registration number the car recievied when it was registered in sweden around 1990 |
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MaGic_GV
United Kingdom
868 Posts |
Posted - 28/07/2016 : 14:29:38
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Hi all. As I said in a reply which has been lost due to the system outage, a 2/ prefix was attached by the factory to a replacement engine. This partially accounts for the engine number looking like a chassis number, but not completely. My guess is that in re-registering the car at some time, this confusion resulted in the car gaining the number PJ 3200, originally issued to chassis 2m3101.
The pic of the knuckle will reveal all! (Or will it?)
Regards,
Graham
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Jacken
Sweden
12 Posts |
Posted - 28/07/2016 : 18:19:34
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Some Pictures
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Peter Green
United Kingdom
1682 Posts |
Posted - 28/07/2016 : 19:24:41
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The picture of the chassis number confirms that the car is 2M 3342.
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sam christie
United Kingdom
3101 Posts |
Posted - 28/07/2016 : 20:06:54
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Very good pictures Jacken.
The number '74' indicates your gearbox was originally fitted to a Morris Minor - hence the very high '3990' serial number.
These were once very abundant and a very easy and a common modification on M-types although the original factory fitted three speed gearbox is actually very acceptable. My own M-type had one fitted when I bought it (also '74') but it is now converted back to three speed. Other examples are '50' indicating Wolseley Hornet (first car fitted with this pattern of gearbox) and '72' and '117' are MG J-type.
Here is another '74' example.
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Mike the M
United Kingdom
481 Posts |
Posted - 28/07/2016 : 20:09:00
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Sorry, I should have said in my last post, that both The 1954 continuation log book has the 1990 Vehicle Registration Document both have PJ 3200 as the registration numbers.
So I think it is a previous Registrar that has recorded the 2M3101 from the 1954 log book and not checked the knuckle.
There is a letter from the original owner dated 1976 that he bought the car in 1932 and re-upholstered the car in real hide 1967!
Will put all the papaerwork on the website shortly!
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sam christie
United Kingdom
3101 Posts |
Posted - 28/07/2016 : 23:18:35
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The confusion seems to come from a time when Mr. Sherlock Joslyn Humphries of the Metropolitan Police Force owned the car.
Do chassis files exist for 2M 3101 or for 2M 3342? When were the cars registered?
Is it possible to discover if Mr. Sherlock Joslyn Humphries of the Metropolitan Police Force was ever a member of the MG Car Club or had access to the MG factory files?
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Colin McLachlan
United Kingdom
991 Posts |
Posted - 29/07/2016 : 10:35:27
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Imagine having to cope with the name Sherlock as a policeman!
Colin
Markinch, Fife.
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MG3242
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George Eagle
United Kingdom
3240 Posts |
Posted - 29/07/2016 : 11:02:59
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Colin beat me with the comment about a Policeman having the Christian name Sherlock!
George
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Oz34
United Kingdom
2542 Posts |
Posted - 29/07/2016 : 11:07:52
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Perhaps he felt he had no other choice of profession?
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Gabriel
Sweden
41 Posts |
Posted - 29/07/2016 : 13:00:24
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Jacken! As I could not remember if the car had a three or a four gearbox when I helped Stefan to start the car when he got it from Rex Collection I phoned a guy who had driven it at least 10 Swedish miles
in the beginning of Stefan Sergels ownership and some day before Pär Skogslind bought the car. And what he remember no one had touch the car in Sweden so he was sure the four speed gearbox had been
installed in England!
By the way on my 2M 1686 I have the same Morris box but with number 10890/74 bought from Bill Thomson years ago. I would like to ask Sam Christie: I have three 3-speed boxes here 13233, 2566 and
1906 A. Which one ought to be on 2M 1686?
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O.Thomas
United Kingdom
755 Posts |
Posted - 29/07/2016 : 17:01:52
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| Did this car have 4 Ali wheel trims (as in photo) at one stage? If so when I worked for Barry gillies one of his Riley customers bought in a photo album containing photos of the M type when it was new, it was owned by one of his relatives , I'm sure its the same car. I'll see if I can contact him and get him to tell all! Oliver |
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Jacken
Sweden
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Posted - 29/07/2016 : 17:39:58
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| Oliver, yes the car had ali wheel covers and I still have them, the original owner (Sherlock) raced alot. Please let me know if you find an album, I would be very interested! |
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