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Ktype
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 09/01/2021 : 17:05:44
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Chris that is fantastic
Stuart Wilson: bare -headed and bare -armed!! There was a slight frost in London the previous night..
Paul
Found one!
H. Stuart-Wilson, MG . International Trophy, Brooklands ,May 7th, 1938.
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Ktype
United Kingdom
343 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2021 : 17:07:34
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Chris
That is fantastic
Stuart - Wilson bare - headed and bare armed!! There was a slight frost in London the night before...
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coracle
United Kingdom
1941 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2021 : 17:46:08
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| As they say over the pond, one has "A right to bare arms." |
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JohnE
United Kingdom
374 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2021 : 19:24:35
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I wouldn't wait up for any prewar action shots, Agfacolor Neu was around 2asa, Kodachrome maybe !0, and the Autochromes about 1/10asa. That's why Nat Geographic always seemed to have landscapes or posed people in the sunshine. #127774;
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/01/2021 : 19:32:22
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Even in the 1960s Kodachrome II was only 25 ASA and you really needed to use B&W if wanting action shots in anything other than bright sunlight. Ilford HP3 at 400 ASA was my choice at most motoring events, not least because Kodachrome cost 21/- for 20 exposures and an Ilford film, which I could develop and print at home, was about 3/- or thereabouts.
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JohnE
United Kingdom
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JohnE
United Kingdom
374 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2021 : 20:01:04
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Also, Motor Sport magazine only went colour in about November 1960, so there would not have been any market prewar.
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Vitesse
United Kingdom
234 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2021 : 18:55:27
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Originally posted by Cris DaBica
At an NEMGTR meet back in the ‘80s I recall seeing a slide show that featured color images taken by George Monkhouse of the record breaking attempts on the Autobahn.
Not Monkhouse. John Dugdale, who wrote for The Autocar and later wrote a book called Great Motor Sport of the Thirties. His photos are now in the collection of the Revs Digital Library. This link is to the advanced search; type in Dugdale, add a row and type in MG and then click search: https://library.revsinstitute.org/digital/custom/advanced-search/
There are also some colour photos which he took during John Cobb's 1939 LSR campaign at Bonneville. |
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Vitesse
United Kingdom
234 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2021 : 18:56:28
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Originally posted by JohnE
Also, Motor Sport magazine only went colour in about November 1960, so there would not have been any market prewar.
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Later than that - 1968. |
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
6145 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2021 : 19:03:29
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Has anyone found any Triple-M colour pictures earlier than 1938?
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Cathelijne
Netherlands
744 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2021 : 20:02:10
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Not earlier, but still nice! Louis Klemantaski, about 1938/39.
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Westbury
United Kingdom
2017 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2021 : 20:26:55
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Nice one Cathelijne!
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Oz34
United Kingdom
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Vitesse
United Kingdom
234 Posts |
Posted - 12/01/2021 : 12:30:05
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As far as I know Klem only used colour film three times pre-WW2. Cat's picture is from the final Brooklands meeting, August 1939. He had previously used colour for the practice sessions at the 1938 French and Swiss GPs, but his race shots from those are B&W, presumably because he would have hoped to sell them for publication in the press.
Contemporary press reports said he - and Monkhouse - also had colour film available at the Cockfosters demonstration runs in 1945. As George worked for Kodak I guess we can assume he supplied it, but I've never actually seen colour photos of that event, so they have presumably either been lost or were of such poor quality that they were disposed of?
Any original (not colourised) pre-war colour stills or films of racing are very rare - there are some good stills of the 1938 Tripoli GP, taken on the grid, and there's also amateur colour film of the 1938 Donington GP and the 1939 International Trophy. |
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Cris DaBica
USA
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Posted - 12/01/2021 : 14:48:01
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My apologies, I misremembered this. The event was the Farmington GOF, held during the 1991 Triple M North American Raid. Thank you for the correction...it was bothering me that I couldn't find any such Monkhouse photos... quote:
Originally posted by Vitesse
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Originally posted by Cris DaBica
At an NEMGTR meet back in the ‘80s I recall seeing a slide show that featured color images taken by George Monkhouse of the record breaking attempts on the Autobahn.
Not Monkhouse. John Dugdale, who wrote for The Autocar and later wrote a book called Great Motor Sport of the Thirties. His photos are now in the collection of the Revs Digital Library. This link is to the advanced search; type in Dugdale, add a row and type in MG and then click search: https://library.revsinstitute.org/digital/custom/advanced-search/
There are also some colour photos which he took during John Cobb's 1939 LSR campaign at Bonneville.
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