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Vitesse
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/01/2021 : 16:52:41
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Makes eminent sense. Dugdale emigrated to the US not long after WW2 - he had won the Military Cross but was captured at Tobruk, spending the rest of the war 'in the bag' - and worked in PR for - among others - Rootes Group, Jaguar and British Leyland, as well as continuing his journalistic career: he died in New York on May 10th 2000, although I don't think he ever became a US citizen. |
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paul55
Luxembourg
732 Posts |
Posted - 15/01/2021 : 20:09:19
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Just found this what appears to be an original colour photo. Titled "Brooklands 1938 by Louis Klemantaski" Obviously not an MG!
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
6145 Posts |
Posted - 15/01/2021 : 20:51:02
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Could the chap with the camera (Leica?) round his neck be the man himself? A black and white version of this photo was used on Klemantaski Himself: Memoirs of Louis Klemantaski. Odd that it’s in black and white on his own book but maybe it’s a black and white picture of the book.
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Edit: I’ve just noticed the word ‘colorize' in the top right hand corner of the colour photo. Hmmm ...
Simon J J3437 |
Edited by - Simon Johnston on 15/01/2021 20:52:49 |
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paul55
Luxembourg
732 Posts |
Posted - 16/01/2021 : 08:00:31
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yes Simon, I've just noticed that too. So maybe not a colour photo. Paul. |
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
6145 Posts |
Posted - 16/01/2021 : 08:52:22
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Paul, It does have the look of a colourised/colorized photo. The trees are very green in what looks to.be a very misty day.
Simon J J3437 |
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IJ2D
United Kingdom
39 Posts |
Posted - 16/01/2021 : 09:30:17
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Going back a couple of pages to a colourized photo posted by Chris, of the International Trophy at Brooklands on 7th May 1938. Does anyone know the actual colour of H. Stuart-Wilson 1100 MG(26)?
Ian J Davison |
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KevinA
New Zealand
672 Posts |
Posted - 16/01/2021 : 09:49:45
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Ok so it's a colorized cheat but I thought I'd play with some of the early photos of my 18/80 |
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Westbury
United Kingdom
2017 Posts |
Posted - 16/01/2021 : 10:23:54
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Pleasing result, Kevin, thank you.
Chris |
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
6145 Posts |
Posted - 16/01/2021 : 10:35:26
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quote: Originally posted by IJ2D
Going back a couple of pages to a colourized photo posted by Chris, of the International Trophy at Brooklands on 7th May 1938. Does anyone know the actual colour of H. Stuart-Wilson 1100 MG(26)?
Given how weak the colours are in photos we know to be genuine, e.g. the ones of the Mercedes team at Donington, the colours in photo of the International Trophy are suspiciously vibrant.
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Edited by - Simon Johnston on 16/01/2021 10:35:50 |
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Colin Butchers
United Kingdom
1487 Posts |
Posted - 16/01/2021 : 10:52:46
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Ian (IJ2D). You have a fairly wide choice of colours for Stuart Wilton's K3004. On 13/4/38 he entered two races at Brooklands. In one of them the car is listed as "Blue/Black" and in the other it was "Red/Black". On 7/5/38 (when he raced with comp number 26) the car would appear to be blue with black wheels (from the photograph) but the entry does not quote the colour. By 6/6/38 the colour is quoted as "Blue/Black". So make what you will of that ! The colours are quoted in The Hawke Book and are likely to have been taken from the original Brooklands programmes.
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Edited by - Colin Butchers on 16/01/2021 11:01:13 |
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Westbury
United Kingdom
2017 Posts |
Posted - 16/01/2021 : 12:13:34
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A colour photograph taken by Frank Hurley who was the Australian photographer on Shackleton’s 1914 Expedition to the Antarctic.
Chris
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
6145 Posts |
Posted - 16/01/2021 : 12:19:18
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Chris, The Frank Hurley photos are fabulous but we shouldn’t confuse specialised glass plate colour photography with colour film which wasn’t commercially available, initially in 35mm format, until the late 1930s as the examples above confirm.
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Colin McLachlan
United Kingdom
994 Posts |
Posted - 17/01/2021 : 10:16:28
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My late father was a keen 16mm cine photographer in his youth, and we have colour cine from the late 30s. Compared to modern colour photography it is very washed-out looking. He was generally using Kodak film.
Colin
Crail, Fife. PA 0613 MG3242 Register No. 2591 |
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Cooperman
United Kingdom
760 Posts |
Posted - 17/01/2021 : 15:51:36
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quote: Originally posted by KevinA
Ok so it's a colorized cheat but I thought I'd play with some of the early photos of my 18/80
Kevin may I post this on the Vintage Register of the MGCC Facebook page?
John Cooper M 628 |
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sam christie
United Kingdom
3108 Posts |
Posted - 17/01/2021 : 20:57:28
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Some years ago I was surprised by a WW II documentary on RAF Bomber Command in colour. It was shown on BBC television along with William Wyler's "The Memphis Belle: A Story of a Flying Fortress". Oddly the colour in the "Memphis Belle" film is not as good but the action is terrifying.
An RAF officer somehow had a significant quantity of colour film stock (presumably of pre war origin) and rather than letting it go to waste he was permitted to make a film about Bomber Command featuring Lancasters on the ground, in the air, taking off, landing and being maintained.
Presumably whichever film stock it was could also have existed for stills cameras.
I managed to find a short clip on youtube from which I extracted this screen shot in full Airfix model colours.
![](https://www.triple-mregister.org/forums//uploads/sam christie/202111102957_Bomber Command 1 JPEG.jpg)
Sam |
Edited by - sam christie on 17/01/2021 21:02:25 |
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