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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/04/2014 : 18:39:37
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Is there a better quality version of this photo available?
![](http://www.triple-mregister.org/forums/uploads/Simon Johnston/20144218_image.jpg)
Is this one that the Register has and could be making available to us?
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Edited by - Simon Johnston on 02/04/2014 18:49:26 |
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Robin Hamblett
United Kingdom
534 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2014 : 06:02:21
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Hi Simon.
When you say better quality, I presume you mean resolution? Keep in mind that screen resolution is usually 72 dots per inch so scanning one at 2440 dpi and posting it online would only cause issues. What are you hoping to see in a bigger image?
Regards
Robin
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
6152 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2014 : 06:51:46
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Robin, Yes, a higher resolution scan. The image file that I have is only 1600 x 1000 so the level of detail is pretty poor as it's quite possibly a 10" x 8" original. With a decent scan resolution of, say 1200 ppi (which is what I use for scanning my own old photos of the J2), I find that I can get pretty decent detail viewing it on my iPad with 264 ppi resolution.
So if the Register has the original......?
Simon J J3437 P.S. Perhaps it would have been clearer if I had said 'good' quality rather than 'better' quality since the quality of posted images is always fairly low. |
Edited by - Simon Johnston on 03/04/2014 06:57:56 |
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
6152 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2014 : 07:34:40
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P.P.S Also, the scan I have looks to have been taken from a printed page rather than from a photographic print which doesn't help its clarity.
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Robin Hamblett
United Kingdom
534 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2014 : 09:09:59
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Simon
The register holds a set of prints, not the original film for these pictures. Quite where the films are is a mystery at present. Each generation of copy will be reliant on reproduction copy and output quality.
I'm away from home at present so will look at what we have when I get back.
Robin
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
6152 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2014 : 14:57:48
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Many thanks, Robin. But for sure a scan at a decent resolution of even a reasonable print would be great to have.
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Matthew Magilton
Australia
179 Posts |
Posted - 04/04/2014 : 07:12:08
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If the Register has a sharp print then it would be great to see an enlarged detail showing one of the cars in the photo, does not necessarily have to be just the whole photo. This would help identify factory finishes and assembly for example.
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sam christie
United Kingdom
3111 Posts |
Posted - 04/04/2014 : 10:49:18
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I think there is another approach.
Much of the area of a photograph is of of no special interest - there is for example- no need to have a floor or a wall or a roof or an area in darkness in high resolution but anyone with an interest can readily point out the areas which are of particular interest.
The photo below is an example of this. It contains a number of details which are like pictures within the picture.
![](https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8015/7605685604_dddeda7fa7_z.jpg)
It is a good photograph but within the picture you can see several others. There is a good view of the underside of a body.
![](https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7300/13619878154_7bec910d3e_c.jpg)
But even this detail contains more detail - below are the panels either side of the gearbox cover including the groove in the plywood to clear the brake pedal linkage and the number of layers in the plywood (and much more).
![](https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3790/13619546545_04e2c58d2d_c.jpg)
And then there is this image - and some people say no two M-type bodies were alike -
![](https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3821/13619632873_00a6b3a854_z.jpg)
And this one -
![](https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3793/13619965394_b33c2a91f5_o.png)
If it was practical to have access to a whole picture, scanned in the highest resolution to reveal all the detail the original picture can offer it would of course be ideal - but time spent on the original print of the image below, scanning the interesting areas in detail could yield a great amount of information and a selection of fascinating pictures but all of manageable size.
![](http://www.triple-mregister.org/forums/uploads/Simon%20Johnston/20144218_image.jpg)
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
6152 Posts |
Posted - 04/04/2014 : 12:31:08
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Sam,
What is the resolution of the full frame scan that you have of the M type bodies and in what format? The scans I did of the original 3" x 2" snaps of my J2 worked out at 30MB in bmp format. A lot less in jpg of course but with perhaps some loss of detail.
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sam christie
United Kingdom
3111 Posts |
Posted - 04/04/2014 : 19:25:02
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Simon, my scans are from a conventional photographic print purchased from the Register many years ago. I bought other prints but the quality of the printing was variable.
Sam |
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sam christie
United Kingdom
3111 Posts |
Posted - 04/04/2014 : 22:45:32
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Thanks Brian. I really believe in the value of good period photographs.They are as close as we can get to time travel. If only they were in colour.
Sam |
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
6152 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2014 : 10:13:32
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Sam,
I'd assumed it was one of the photographs that the Register used to make available (hint, hint!). What size was it and what scanning resolution did you use?
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Robin Hamblett
United Kingdom
534 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2014 : 10:49:38
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Hi Simon
I'm sure there was a promise involved, sometime around mid year I believe was my suggested date. bad news is that the register does not have a print of this image on file so I cannot help with this.
Robin
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Robin Hamblett
United Kingdom
534 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2014 : 10:52:21
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Correction. There is a copy of this image in the files. Towards the back but I will get to it when time allows. Probably May time at the moment.
Robin
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
6152 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2014 : 12:27:36
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Sounds good, Robin. Having access to these splendid factory photos really is essential.
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sam christie
United Kingdom
3111 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2014 : 13:15:41
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Simon, the photographic print was 8" x 6" . I cannot recall the scanning resolution. I guess the original photograph was a contact print from a large negative which gave an abundance of detail.
Perhaps I could tell something about the resolution of my own scans from the file size?
Below is just another picture for which the original negative has very probably been lost. Interesting though.
![](https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2864/13641985005_321423a166_c.jpg)
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Edited by - sam christie on 05/04/2014 13:20:45 |
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