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Christian H
Germany
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 Posted - 23/11/2014 : 17:14:41
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I would be interested to hear how taxes and MOTīs are dealt with in other countries around the world.
In Germany you can register any vehicle of at least 30 years of age as an historic vehicle and for this there is a fixed road tax of 190 Euro per year, regardless of engine capacity or age.
The MOT is mandatory every two years which can be entertaining with pre war cars without seatbealts and just with rev. counters etc. if it is not your day and being stranded in front of a non-understanding and not vintage-experienced MOT tester. The recored mileage on the instrument has also to appear in the report - difficult, if there is no mileometer...; .
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george
United Kingdom
862 Posts |
Posted - 23/11/2014 : 18:10:45
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| Christian, in UK for cars built before I think 1960 there is no tax payable and no annual inspection [[MOT]. cheers Geoff |
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Oz34
United Kingdom
2543 Posts |
Posted - 23/11/2014 : 18:17:05
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Yes Geoff, and the tax free has now extended. As of last May, my '73 V8 pays none; big change from I think Ģ250 the year before!
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
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George Eagle
United Kingdom
3240 Posts |
Posted - 23/11/2014 : 22:02:35
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I am also in the happy position of not having to pay tax on my 1973 V8 BGT. The good news for others is that the exemption is now rolling with 1974 cars qualifying to be exempt from next year.
I wonder if the exemption from MOT tests will be extended?
George
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
6144 Posts |
Posted - 23/11/2014 : 22:19:01
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George,
The MOT exemption is an exemption under EU law for cars manufactured before 1 January 1960. I suspect it's unlikely that the EU will provide for a rolling exemption.
Simon J
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Colin Butchers
United Kingdom
1487 Posts |
Posted - 24/11/2014 : 10:18:08
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When we leave the EU, our own Government will be able to make such decisions on our behalf, without having to seek permission from 28 other countries (or whatever the current number is) !
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RH9797
United Kingdom
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Posted - 24/11/2014 : 10:43:05
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to recall the MOT exemption for cars / motorcycles being brought into line with Historic Commercial Vehicles??
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PeterL
United Kingdom
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Posted - 24/11/2014 : 10:52:40
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Colin
Gordon Brown made the decision himself, I was listening to his budget speech at the time... He actually referred specifically to cars over 25 years old. The law was implemented by our law makers as referring to cars over 25 years old at the moment he spoke, so no rolling exemptions. None of this anti EU rhetoric here please!!!
If you want a sensible way of doing it you should look at Australia. They had (when I was there 30 years ago, and it may have changed) two systems for taxing your vintage car: if you used it as your everyday car you taxed it as such, if you just used it for club events it was exempt but could only be used on club events.
Cheers
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Max Headroom
United Kingdom
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Posted - 24/11/2014 : 11:29:35
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Originally posted by Colin Butchers
When we leave the EU, our own Government will be able to make such decisions on our behalf, without having to seek permission from 28 other countries (or whatever the current number is) !
Colin B.
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Widung
Sweden
189 Posts |
Posted - 24/11/2014 : 16:03:29
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In Sweden for my PB there is a Registration fee of about 6 punds per year, no yearly tax and no MOT after the registration MOT. Full insurance for a value of 30,000 punds is about 50 pounds. Fire extinguisher and main current switch is mandatory for the insurance + max 5000 km/year + you have to have another car registered and used for daily transport.
I believe the age limit (of the car) for these rules is 30 years here too.
So it seems the rules differ in the EU...
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
6144 Posts |
Posted - 24/11/2014 : 16:51:18
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Originally posted by Widung
So it seems the rules differ in the EU...
The EU only gets involved in the matter of vehicle testing - taxes of whatever sort for cars and the arrangements for insurance for vintage/classic cars in the member states are matters for the member states concerned.
Simon J
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Christian H
Germany
58 Posts |
Posted - 24/11/2014 : 18:59:01
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Thanks for the information - having a look "over the edge" is always interesting! But how is this situation in the States or in Australia?
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Oz34
United Kingdom
2543 Posts |
Posted - 24/11/2014 : 19:43:34
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Peter L, I don't think that is quite correct. I assume you are talking about the free tax disc (or no disc!) and not the MOT.
MOT went after Gordon had departed; my recollection is that the free disc had been introduced, on a rolling 25 year basis before the Gordon/Tony era and what Gordon did was freeze it at 1972 production, just squeezing out George and myself with our '73 V8s.
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PeterL
United Kingdom
1723 Posts |
Posted - 24/11/2014 : 21:14:43
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Ah yes... concentrating on undertrays... and a touch of senility!
Yes it was the tax wasn't it. Still, the Aussies still have the best scheme or did, you MOT'd the thing and when you paid for that you paid for the tax and basic insurance all in the one payment and received in return a transfer to stick on the windscreen. So it was a one stop shop, no chasing round to the insurance man and losing your cheque book on the way to the post office and then wondering where you ahd put the MOT certificate.... I have to say it is better here now that you can do it on line...
Back to sleep now...
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LewPalmer
USA
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Posted - 24/11/2014 : 23:43:06
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The laws vary from state to state in the US. Here in the frozen north of Minnesota, the licensing is a one-time charge of $20 which gets you plates for the life of the car or owner, whichever comes first. There are two primary categories of license plates - Pioneer for pre-1936 cars, and Collector for anything else over 25 years old. There are a few variations of Collector, for example Street Rod, but the rules are the same. Limited use for occasional pleasure use and club activities. Get caught driving to and from work regularly will attract the attention of the police and draw a hefty fine.
Insurance varies between companies, but the typical charge is $7 per $1000 per annum for collision and liability which limits mileage to 2500 miles per year. No racing is allowed.
Annual inspection (MOT) is not required any more on any car.
Lew Palmer
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