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sam christie
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 Posted - 15/02/2015 : 23:08:11
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The experts probably sorted this out long ago but, while the standard and 'de luxe' J2 dash lay outs seem to be clearly established the 'de luxe' instruments seen today seem to vary from car to car.
Can anyone share any close up pictures of the factory fitted clock(s) and temperature gauge(s)?
I have been looking at lots of internet images but they are mostly very low definition and not informative.
Are there any good quality period photographs? I have only ever seen one but it is not necessarily a typical car.
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MG Maverick
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/02/2015 : 07:13:53
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Hi Sam,
Being new to MMMs I also need help to identify correct instruments, I am lucky that my dismantled J2 arrived from Cyprus with all original instruments unmolested and original, in fact I now realise that one of my two original gauge clusters has probably got a pre-production test MG badge on it, which is extremely rare. For me Patrick Henry has been extremely helpful and obliging, he has a vast knowledge of the instruments that would have adorned early MGs, I am sure he would be able to assist you.
Chris ( J2353 )
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sam christie
United Kingdom
3099 Posts |
Posted - 16/02/2015 : 09:30:03
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Would it be possible to see a close up picture of your instruments Chris?
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Bob Stringfield
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/02/2015 : 11:29:00
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sam christie
United Kingdom
3099 Posts |
Posted - 17/02/2015 : 00:53:48
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Chris by "de Luxe" instruments I mean only the clock (A) and the radiator thermometer (B), as mentioned in the J manual.
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MG Maverick
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17/02/2015 : 02:48:46
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Hello Sam, The gauges that came with my J2 are not like the ones in your picture. The clock is 3" diameter with a flat glass and the water temp very different, the dial is black and does not look anything like the pictures. The only person who could have helped was Michael Bird, the late previous owner, his widow has found loads of other spares that she was not aware of and I have arranged the shipping back to the UK. It would appear that one of the two J2s that Michael Bird owned was a very early, even pre-production model going by the cluster which has this special MG button. I am advised that this was a pre-production / special item.The two J2s were totally dismantled, parts from both cars are mixed together. Sorry I may have misled you, but thought what I had was original.
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kimber
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17/02/2015 : 07:22:25
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| Interesting that the temp gauge appears to have originally had a white face whereas they are almost invariably black on rebuilt cars. |
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Simon Johnston
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17/02/2015 : 07:47:59
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I recall reading an article - perhaps by one of the old hands from Abingdon? - in which it was said that the white faced gauge seen in the instruction manual was as a result of it being the only one available when the photographs were being taken and that all gauges actually fitted as part of the De Luxe package were black faced.
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tholden
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17/02/2015 : 09:17:37
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De Luxe equipment was the 2 inch black faced clock as shown in the manual photo above and a standard Jaeger 2 inch black faced 100 degree thermometer. I understand just a few early cars were fitted with white faced thermometers originally. As Simon says probably all that they had available at the time.
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MG Maverick
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17/02/2015 : 13:36:41
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Attached are the gauges that came with my J2 from Cyprus. They look in good condition and I brought them back in my luggage last visit to Cyprus. Michael Bird may have restored them, I don't know. Also attached the J2, now starting to unpack from its crates in preparation for its rebuild.
On closer inspection did centigrade gauges exist for the J2 ?
Chris ( J2353 )
Brighton, East Sussex & Paphos, Cyprus.
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sam christie
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17/02/2015 : 14:06:35
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Chris, thanks for the excellent pictures. I have spotted another J2 with a very similar black faced Jaeger thermometer.
This is an off white gauge (below) of roughly the same period ( I think). The argument that the gauge was intended to be black is very convincing but it would be nice to see more evidence from the period.This one might end up with a black face.
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Edited by - sam christie on 17/02/2015 14:09:06 |
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