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Oz34

United Kingdom
2538 Posts

Posted - 19/02/2015 :  21:22:58  Show Profile
This subject was discussed some time ago and the consensus seemed to be that the original engine number should be used with an "R" suffix for replacement.

Can anyone suggest a firm in the southeast which could apply such a number to a block in a running car?

Dave

Foz

United Kingdom
769 Posts

Posted - 19/02/2015 :  21:57:59  Show Profile
Hi Dave,
letters have various meaning in the MG engine stampings..... I use the original number with a -2 following it. So far has not caused any confusion with factory stampings.
yrs Foz
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DickMorbey

United Kingdom
3677 Posts

Posted - 20/02/2015 :  08:27:38  Show Profile
Hello Dave,

The practice in the past (and at present) has been for the stamping to be in a different size font to the original and that a letter 'R' should be placed somewhere if the original engine number was being stamped.

This is to avoid the replacement block being confused with an original.

Dick Morbey
PA/PB 0743
Frieth, Oxon, UK
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i.thomson

United Kingdom
408 Posts

Posted - 20/02/2015 :  10:22:12  Show Profile
Assuming we are talking about new blocks here rather than original blocks from another car should we be using the number (with "R" or "2")which was original to the car or that which is actually being removed from the car - and perhaps scrapped.

Ian Thomson
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Tony Dolton

United Kingdom
372 Posts

Posted - 20/02/2015 :  15:51:50  Show Profile
My PA has a new block replacing a damaged block not original to the car.the no on the damaged block is on the V5.
I have yet to stamp anything on the new block,but if and when I do surely it should be the no on the damaged block Plus R, rather than The block no of the original engine fitted back in 1934..
Hope u all understand me!Tony
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Oz34

United Kingdom
2538 Posts

Posted - 20/02/2015 :  19:35:19  Show Profile
All very interesting.

Foz, if I understand you correctly, an "R" could cause confusion but a "2" won't?

Everyone else however seems happy with R, but does anyone know where in the southeast I might have such a number stamped on a new block which is already part of a running car?

Dave
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rustcollector

United Kingdom
410 Posts

Posted - 21/02/2015 :  10:23:55  Show Profile
Oz,

Why do you want a dealer to stamp the no.

Is it because you don't have the confidence or the equipment.

There are plenty of letter and number punches on ebay, probably cheaper than having someone do it for you.

Alternatively machine mart stocks the punches.

There are a few different sizes and styles and it may be difficult to get a good match to the original, not sure if thats a concern to you.

Doing it your self you can take your time and do it nicely.

Also use a decent hammer, not a toffee hammer or a claw hammer.

One thing I would say is check the punch out on a bit of scrap steel first, as it is easy to get the letter upside down ( I've done it). A bit like the old saying " measure twice, cut once "
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Oz34

United Kingdom
2538 Posts

Posted - 21/02/2015 :  15:02:19  Show Profile
Thanks for that Michael. It's as easy as that is it?

When you talk of a toffee hammer, I guess a nickname, what I am I trying to avoid? Would a club hammer be a bit like a sledge to crack a nut and, if not a claw hammer, a cross pein or ball pein perhaps?

Cheers,

Dave
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Eric Taylor

France
157 Posts

Posted - 21/02/2015 :  16:59:05  Show Profile
Hi Oz, a toffee hammer!






Regards Eric Taylor.
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Oz34

United Kingdom
2538 Posts

Posted - 21/02/2015 :  17:19:50  Show Profile
Thanks Eric, I don't think I'd bother to buy one of those.

Cheers,

Dave
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DickMorbey

United Kingdom
3677 Posts

Posted - 21/02/2015 :  17:24:57  Show Profile
You might find this tool to be of some interest?
http://www.schokolat.co.uk/hammer/

Dick Morbey
PA/PB 0743
Frieth, Oxon, UK
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LewPalmer

USA
3243 Posts

Posted - 21/02/2015 :  18:30:09  Show Profile
"All Schokolat products have a shelf life of approximately 12 months from the date of manufacture."

Why? Is it made from chocolate??

Lew Palmer
PA1169, PB0560
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DickMorbey

United Kingdom
3677 Posts

Posted - 21/02/2015 :  19:42:51  Show Profile
Certainly is, Lew - though you'd never guess it!

Dick Morbey
PA/PB 0743
Frieth, Oxon, UK
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Foz

United Kingdom
769 Posts

Posted - 21/02/2015 :  23:23:23  Show Profile
weld a combination lock onto the block and you can have a different number every day of the week!
seriously I thought the Register had decided thet -2 was the preffered way of identifying a replacement block....and probably not necessary to tell DVLA of a number change (technically an addition to existing)......however new blocks are fairly easy to spot....
Foz
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george

United Kingdom
862 Posts

Posted - 22/02/2015 :  09:57:56  Show Profile
To go with the toffee hammer I recommend a side order of chocolate spanner. Geoff



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MaGic_GV

United Kingdom
868 Posts

Posted - 22/02/2015 :  10:31:17  Show Profile
For what its worth, my block was replaced at the works in 1945, and has no number at all stamped on it!

Regards,
Graham
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