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timothy edwards
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 18/08/2024 : 13:11:03
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Thanks for the help. All this stuff, so difficult to get a grip of.
I took a number of pictures back in the 60's at Silverstone, perhaps. The car was black and green the same as F0340.
Does any one know CRE423 parked next to TM9731.
I found the following pictures:
Don't cry Chris as F0340 has been well looked after, after your find in the foothills of Wales.
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DK6780
United Kingdom
315 Posts |
Posted - 18/08/2024 : 13:58:32
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| The colours suit the car, but I can't say I like the (Morris Minor?) rear lights. |
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tholden
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18/08/2024 : 15:27:53
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Duncan those of us who were running such Triple M cars in the early sixties did not have the luxury of calling up a supplier to get exactly the right parts for our cars. Mostly we had to use what we could get our hands on.
Availability of parts did not happen until such wonderful people as Mike Dowley and Barry Walker and later Paul Beck and others started to supply good replacement parts.
Rather than criticise a car pictured in the sixties with an incorrect part we should be congratulating and thanking the owners from that time for keeping the cars running and preserving them.
Terry
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Westbury
United Kingdom
2073 Posts |
Posted - 18/08/2024 : 15:41:00
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Hello, Terry.
I agree, but the picture of the F1 Salonette I referred to appears to be more recent?
Tim, many thanks for the pictures.
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DK6780
United Kingdom
315 Posts |
Posted - 18/08/2024 : 15:50:24
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Terry
Sorry if I upset you.
There were always other options for upgrading rear lights on pre-War cars, and my comment should be taken in the context of the criticism of another set of lights that have replaced these. Clearly any modernisation is potentially contentious. |
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Cooperman
United Kingdom
767 Posts |
Posted - 18/08/2024 : 18:36:23
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My experience of obtaining spares in the sixties was Bone Brothers or Richardsons(?) in Staines and Toulmin I think they were on the Great West Road or our local breakers Jones of Waltham Abbey. It was make do and mend. And nearly every triple M car I looked at at that time had a Ford 10 engine. When we asked the seller "Have you go the original engine?" the reply was something like "errm it's over there on the scrap heap"
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Westbury
United Kingdom
2073 Posts |
Posted - 18/08/2024 : 18:40:41
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Another one I used, John, was Hoffman’s in Bradford, if my memory serves me right.
Anyone remember them?
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sven
Sweden
439 Posts |
Posted - 18/08/2024 : 19:01:02
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Hi
Fond memories from all of them also Hoffmans when I first bought my L tourer in -65
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timothy edwards
United Kingdom
223 Posts |
Posted - 19/08/2024 : 10:01:37
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TM 9731 was with the Allbright's, Bill and Geri, in 1978 and I attach a picture of TM9713 on a Christmas card from Bill and Geri then living in California.
I have received a message from someone? via the forum, requesting copies of the pictures I have which seems to have disappeared into the ether. Please make contact again, my email is; timothysusan339@btinternet.com
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creamcracker
United Kingdom
125 Posts |
Posted - 19/08/2024 : 10:55:32
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| Email sent. Thanks Tim. |
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tonym
United Kingdom
655 Posts |
Posted - 20/08/2024 : 15:09:30
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Hoffmans, Canal Road, Bradford.
In an old canalside wharehouse - the canal was long gone by the 1960's, although there was the remains of a lock nearby.
Floor to ceiling racking, full of parts.
When they closed most of it all went into skips - as they could not find buyers.
I used to pass over Canal Road nearby on a bridge twice every day going to work - and I never knew until it was too late ! |
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Nick Feakes
USA
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Posted - 20/08/2024 : 17:15:43
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Timothy
CRE423 is a PB and it is known to the Register. It looks as if the car is alive and well.
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Bathurst
Australia
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Posted - 21/08/2024 : 02:09:13
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I have a lot of info on this car which I will extract from my files and submit shortly - so watch this space! It did go to Bill Albright but he later sold it.
Rob
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creamcracker
United Kingdom
125 Posts |
Posted - 21/08/2024 : 07:21:45
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| Email sent Rob. |
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Bathurst
Australia
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Posted - 21/08/2024 : 07:24:47
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I know quite a lot more about this F-Type. I bought it in July 1975 from Simon Cobley of Harpenden, Herts, on behalf of Bill and Geri Albright of Claremont, California, as evidenced by the Bill of Sale I still retain along with copies of the shipping documents. The purchase price was 2000 pounds which was a little more than offered by a dealer but Simon wanted the car to go direct to a true enthusiast, who desired the rare body style, rather than have it marked up in deals along the way. A telegram to me (remember those?!) in August 1975 from Bill said "Salonette safely home it is magnificent". Bill had contacted me much earlier saying he had the desire to buy an F or L-Type, with an unusual body if possible, and would I find one for him. Simon told me it had been bought new by a baker in Bedford hence the TM registration and it had been stored during the war years (snug and warm if in the bakery building!) and was then sold in 1953 when he died. Simon believed it went through a few owners before being owned by Dermot Reynolds. It is at this stage that it probably became known within MGCC circles and hence the photo on the forum dated c1960.
Dermot is believed to have retrimmed the interior and fitted a new roof lining, which would not have been easy with the sliding sunshine roof, as well as new carpets, and, to have painted the main body of the car black while reataining the original green for the roof and rear quarter. Otherwise it was basically in original condition and a low mileage on the odometer.
In 1975, Simon was a young man and told me that he was a university student and could no longer afford to keep the car. I don’t remember him saying he acquired it from Dermot but the latter did hold onto the original re-issued log book as the first one had gone missing. I tasked Bill with the job of contacting Dermot to acquire the re-issued log book. I expected Dermot to have much more information to pass on about the car. Simon did give me photocopies of the re-issued log book and an appropriate workshop manual which I sent to Bill. I don’t remember what they looked like but I do remember telling Bill that I had put the ignition keys and the “T” bar handle to unlock the boot in the glove box. My inspection of the car revealed the engine compartment to be a bit grubby. Simon said it had been standing and rather neglected for about four years and had probably only been driven about 1000 miles in that time. A modern oil pressure gauge was neatly positioned almost out of sight and an electric petrol pump had been fitted but no sign of the original Petrolift! One of the spare tyres appeared to be the original! The other looked as though it had had a puncture and was not in good condition. Simon said he thought that this Salonette was built by Carbodies and not by Charlesworth. I should have looked for a maker’s plate but didn’t think about it at the time. Shame on me! Being an early F-Type this Salonette style could have been ordered by Kimber on Carbodies as they were building all the open two and four seaters. Then, after he saw the pleasing style of the car, he may have asked Charlesworth, being a more bespoke specialist body builder, to quote on a batch of say six or ten. No doubt Carbodies would have been flat out building the open two and four seaters. That’s pure conjecture on my part and I am willing to be corrected!
In more recent years I have been in touch with Ian Ross who maintains the F Magna Register and he believes this F-Type came back from USA and ended up in Germany. It seems obvious from this thread that the car is now back in UK in different colours and with a different registration number.
I hope this adds information to what else is known about this car’s past and is helpful for the original enquirer who started this thread.
Rob Dunsterville
Newcastle, Australia
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