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PreWarMG
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 Posted - 27/01/2020 : 01:59:51
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Originally posted by MG Perth
Hi Cris
Thanks for your enthusiasm for the book. There may be only two people who have read the book more times than you -- me, because I wrote it, and my wife Cathy as she proof read it!
My investigations into Henry William Allingham have taken an interesting turn. His mother was the famous artist of idyllic English country scenes, Helen Allingham, and his father a poet. More work to do to tell his story!
Graeme
William Allingham was 50 years old when he married the 24 year old Helen - she must have turned his head in more ways than one.
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MG Perth
Australia
37 Posts |
Posted - 31/01/2020 : 02:26:23
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Hi Tony
HW Allingham didn't repeat his parents' age gap when he married Nellie Lomax. She was also born in 1882. Incidentally, they both came from a Bohemian background. Nellie was the daughter of the genre artist John Arthur Lomax. His paintings are quite cheesy now -- they remind me of the panels from old giveaway calendars. I wonder how much artistic influence she had on the design of the Airline Coupes? Unfortunately both their children died young.
Graeme Cocks
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PreWarMG
Australia
427 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2020 : 08:34:05
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Can anyone identify this Airline Coupe from the registration - RX9316 ?.
Thank you in anticipation,
Tony
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whirlwind
New Zealand
94 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2020 : 08:48:30
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Hello Tony
I believe that it is just the MG trade plate used for when driving their unregistered vehicles on the road.
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KevinA
New Zealand
671 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2020 : 09:03:35
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Hi Colin
I doubt it. That format is a Berkshire plate where the factory registered their cars, but it is not a dealer/trade format. That doesn't mean MG weren't naughty though swapping plates to suit themselves.
The surviving RX plate records are held by the Kithead trust. An email to them would be a good starting point
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PeterL
United Kingdom
1723 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2020 : 14:16:14
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RX9981 was issued in I think Juluy 1932 to my F Type so predates P Types by quite a long way...
Cheers
P |
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PreWarMG
Australia
427 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2020 : 20:38:52
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I have sent off an email to the Kithead Trust - thanks for the tip KevinA.
Fingers crossed.
Cheers
Tony
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PreWarMG
Australia
427 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2020 : 06:52:37
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The Kithead Trust will be sending the results of their search in a few days. In the meantime, here is a better image of the same car.
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MaGic_GV
United Kingdom
868 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2020 : 11:18:51
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RX 9316 was allocated to F0255 on October 10th 1931, but that car was exported to Switzerland shortly after, so the number would have been available - I imagine as suggested it was used by the works for convenience.
Regards,
Graham
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PreWarMG
Australia
427 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2020 : 20:47:36
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The Kithead Trust has confirmed this registration was first used on 15th October 1931 by MG Car Co., Abingdon. The car was exported on 25th February 1932. No other records.
Certainly these dates appear to be too early to be associated with a PA Airline.
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Wiard Krook
Netherlands
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Posted - 05/02/2020 : 22:01:09
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Maybe known to everybody, but quite interesting:
"Art Deco and British Car Design; the Airline Cars of the 1930s"by Barrie Down, Veloce Publishing, England 2010.
Wiard Krook
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PreWarMG
Australia
427 Posts |
Posted - 07/02/2020 : 03:45:13
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Also worth a read with some historic MG Airline Coupe photos.
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LewPalmer
USA
3243 Posts |
Posted - 07/02/2020 : 16:37:53
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Don't believe too much of the info in the Knudson book. I pointed out a number of blatant errors to Dick just after the book was published, but he never bothered to respond or publish an errata.
Lew Palmer
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PreWarMG
Australia
427 Posts |
Posted - 08/02/2020 : 23:01:07
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There will likely never be a publication on Airline Coupe's without an error, as most of the history and cars have been lost forever, and we are left to wonder about what we will never know.
Recent research has pointed towards the "Whittingham & Mitchell" NA Airline, was in fact built in Australia by "Martin & King" on a export "rolling chassis" before finding it's way to New Zealand.
More research is needed to confirm this theory.
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MG Perth
Australia
37 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2020 : 01:32:43
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Yes, history is an iterative process. I like Donald Rumsfeld's quote: "Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know." This applies to our Henry William Allingham. He went to Queensland to take up an apprenticeship in 1899. We know he worked on Tangye, Robey and Pulsometer pumps. We know that a company in Brisbane called Smellie and Co were the agents for these pumps. We don't know whether he worked for Smellie and Co. We also don't know why he didn't complete the apprenticeship and returned to the UK. And the rest is history . . .
Also, talking about things we know and don't know. I wonder whether Martin & King paid a license fee to Henry Allingham to use his design. Aah, another set of known unknowns! |
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